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HELP bulk for first show

Craigydar

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Hi
I'm 190lbs 13-14% bodyfat and 5"11ft age 30

I'm on TRT
I've recently dropped from 23-25%bf to 13-14 as you can see by pic .

I want to enter amateur competition bodybuilding or men's physique not sure suggestions welcome .
I've got 6 to 7 cycles in past 6 years incl deca n tren cycles but been put on trt for life as abuses alchol and god knows what else in past . I'm head strong now and dropped bodyfat and focused .

I want to bulk in 5 weeks time once I'm down to 10% then leave 16 weeks before my show in may next year to cut .

I've looked into a long bulk and it's biggest one yet . Is it do able ?

1-5 dbol 50mg
1-16 deca 600mg
1-24 test 1000mg
1-24 EQ 600mg
10-15 dbol 50mg
16 -24 tren e 600mg

Hgh 5iu ed (been running it already and continue for 8months )

Cycle support all way
Adex
Caber
Vitamins

Then back onto trt dose

Isit ok to stop deca at 16 then switch to tren e until 24thwk being slow ester

I've hear to keep switching compounds eg test also ?


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24 weeks is a bit long, even with being on TRT. I would keep your blast to 12-16 weeks, 20 at the most. Based on your size and cycle history and what you want to run, I would go like this..

1-16 Test E - 750mg/week
1-16 Equipoise - 800mg/week
1-16 Deca - 400mg/week (start with 400, then bump to 600 if you don't get any sides)
7-16 Tren E - 400mg/week
1-4 DBol - 30mg/day
 
Hi mate just read your thread and was going to message you lol . Yes looked into it and people run eq and test long time hence 22-24 weeks , I was worried about tren and deca together that's my issue .... ??

If it's ok then maybe the cycle you laid out is good I may run test longer tho to 20 weeks ?


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24 weeks is a bit long, even with being on TRT. I would keep your blast to 12-16 weeks, 20 at the most. Based on your size and cycle history and what you want to run, I would go like this..

1-16 Test E - 750mg/week
1-16 Equipoise - 800mg/week
1-16 Deca - 400mg/week (start with 400, then bump to 600 if you don't get any sides)
7-16 Tren E - 400mg/week
1-4 DBol - 30mg/day


Hi mate just read your thread and was going to message you lol . Yes looked into it and people run eq and test long time hence 22-24 weeks , I was worried about tren and deca together that's my issue .... ??

If it's ok then maybe the cycle you laid out is good I may run test longer tho to 20 weeks ?





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You can go 22-24 weeks if you like, there just comes a time when muscle gains are going to stall out. So if you are trying to add muscle, staying on longer isn't always the best option. That is why I recommended 16 weeks.

You can run Tren and Deca together, just make sure to keep E in check and run caber or prami.
 
Ok I see what you mean , I'd like to run test and eq abit longer to see benefits from eq especially , but I may overlap the tren and deca like you said


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I see absolutely no reason to run your cycle that long. Your myostatin levels will be peaked out, and you won't see any gains that late in the cycle. 16 weeks is the max I would recommend, and you need to cut them dosages down. You don't need all that gear either
 
I see absolutely no reason to run your cycle that long. Your myostatin levels will be peaked out, and you won't see any gains that late in the cycle. 16 weeks is the max I would recommend, and you need to cut them dosages down. You don't need all that gear either


Appreciate your input ,
I've got 4 weeks hard cutting to do now so will keep updated or maybe start a log ... 👍


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