Help build my next cycle

[darkchild]

How's it going? My first cycle was almost 2 years ago. gained 20 lbs on that cycle. Test E and EQ. It felt awesome, but i'm not sure if the EQ did much since I didn't notice a difference in appetite. I am now trying to put together a Bulk cycle to gain some mass. I am now 181LBS 6'2.

So far this is what I have planned for the juice.

Week 1-14 - 700MG of test E or C 2x week. Which is better?
Week 1-12 400MG Deca 2x week.
Week 8-14 either 40mg dbol/day or Proviron 50mg/day. I was told that I should do 1 or the other, I don't quite understand why though. I don't know much about Proviron, other than it's an estrogen antagonist. I've never used it though. and some people have told me to use dbol at the end of the cycle.

I am planning on running AI the whole way through. PCT would consist of Clomid and Nolva.
I will be doing a test p, winny and tren cycle 16 weeks after my PCT for this cycle is done.

I will do the same diet as I did my last cycle since I feel that it was a good one.

 

[C0LUMB0]

How's it going? My first cycle was almost 2 years ago. gained 20 lbs on that cycle. Test E and EQ. It felt awesome, but i'm not sure if the EQ did much since I didn't notice a difference in appetite. I am now trying to put together a Bulk cycle to gain some mass. I am now 181LBS 6'2.

So far this is what I have planned for the juice.

Week 1-14 - 700MG of test E or C 2x week. Which is better?
Week 1-12 400MG Deca 2x week.
Week 8-14 either 40mg dbol/day or Proviron 50mg/day. I was told that I should do 1 or the other, I don't quite understand why though. I don't know much about Proviron, other than it's an estrogen antagonist. I've never used it though. and some people have told me to use dbol at the end of the cycle.

I am planning on running AI the whole way through. PCT would consist of Clomid and Nolva.
I will be doing a test p, winny and tren cycle 16 weeks after my PCT for this cycle is done.

I will do the same diet as I did my last cycle since I feel that it was a good one.

from previous posts i see you are 23...

ok regarding the test cyp or E ....either is good the difference is minute and not noticable.
no need to bump your dose of testosterone to 700mg on your second cycle...you grew well on 500mg...do it again and save bigger doses for further down the road.

you can run the deca at 300-400mg but you will want caber or prami on hand.

use the dbol at the start of the cycle...not the end - 4 weeks @ 20-30mg is plenty.
dont know why you are comparing dbol and proviron...they are very different compounds. ( more research needed my friend )

your pct is weak and very out-dated.

NEVER use nolvedex after a deca or tren cycle, google it !

low dose clomid is fine 4 weeks @ 25mg along with ,unleashed/postcycle combo, phytoserms 347 ,DAA .

all available from needtobuildmuscle.... and there are some sweet discounted prices there at the moment too !

 

[joeblow12345]

Columbo covered everything about the cycle the only thing I'd add is run n2guard with the dbol to protect liver.


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[dylangemelli]

yes, columbo covered a lot of points that are excellent... dbol is never a good idea to run at the end bro... its a great kickstart but you don't want to go into pct with elevated estrogen, bloat, etc... regardless of an ai or not, you will still have a bit of elevation in estro... as far as your test, 350-500 is all that is necessary... npp is another great alternative to deca... less sides, cleaner gains... you can get a lot of nice size that way... i am a believer in cleaner gains that are more keepable... that's not to say you can't keep deca gains but npp will allow them to be more retainable... i would get caber as opposed to prami... its more effective with far less sides... dose is .5mg e3d... check out ag guys for your caber... just be responsible with deca if you run it and regardless, make sure to run hcgenerate for a portion of the cycle and to blast hcg before pct... here's a proper pct...

pct

Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH test INFUSION AND FORGED POST cycle AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM

optional

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com

ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com