Help bros urgent.....

[rfowler]

so I was at the movies tonight and bam my left nipple was very puffed, I just started dbol 20mg day along my test e 500 a week. I love the dbol for the feelings and pump I am taking 20mg aromasin already per day, just downed 40mg of nolva to head this off, I have my AIFM that I am using as well. I have cabergoline on hand and letro. how can I knock this nip down ASAP should I throw the whole kitchen sink at it? I am taking 50mg proviron too.

 

[GetBig10]

20mg nolva ...1.25 mg letro ed

 

[OMEGA]

sucks bro sounds like you know what to do

Drop the D, use an AI or more agressive for 3-4 days to "head it off at the pass" so to speak then ease off

The Ai's should be enough

ugh sucks bro

 

[rfowler]

sucks bro sounds like you know what to do

Drop the D, use an AI or more agressive for 3-4 days to "head it off at the pass" so to speak then ease off

The Ai's should be enough

ugh sucks bro

damn this is my first time with dbol and I loved it I wonder if this could be an estrogen rebound because I was taking letro at 2.5 per day for a slight puff and that went away so I added the aromasin instead as my AI for the remainder of the cycle and added the dbol and then bam puffage like a mad man all the sudden. I think I got everything to head this off I just wish I could keep the dbol. but if it causes the tits its gone.

 

[OMEGA]

think its the combo of 500 of Test WITH the added Dbol and it metabolites that pushed you over the edge

kinda like when people take Test and Deca if E levels are high from the T then one tends to become more prone to Deca based gyno.

be agressive with AI while you drop the D
one thing: High AI useage tends to cause sore joints and mood issues, so mentally prepare if it comes

not saying it will happen with you, but it happens with some.

 

[solidspine]

Spray that AIFM right on the boob,

 

[OMEGA]

also I am sure other people will share ideas

just gave one to help

 

[rfowler]

Spray that AIFM right on the boob,

been doing that, I actually just applied after my shower a few minutes ago. so far tonight I have done 2 pumps AIFM on the nip, 40mg nolva, 2.5mg letro, plus the 20mg aromasin I took this morning, and of course the 50mg of proviron I am taking per day. lol

 

[MR. BMJ]

The best thing to do is eliminate the source of the problem. It sucks, but if you are that sensitive to that low of a dosage of DBol and still get nipple soreness, then Dbol may not be right for you. You can work with it some, but you are on some heavy AI artillary and it still came about. I'd just eliminate the Dbol and continue using the AI's until it gets better (AIFM/Aromasin).....

You now know that you are ultra sensitive to estrogenic compounds, so you WILL need AI's in every cycle.

You can play Mad Scientist though and try to find ways around it through trial and errors....which can be fun......or really bad....lol.

BMJ

 

[rfowler]

The best thing to do is eliminate the source of the problem. It sucks, but if you are that sensitive to that low of a dosage of DBol and still get nipple soreness, then Dbol may not be right for you. You can work with it some, but you are on some heavy AI artillary and it still came about. I'd just eliminate the Dbol and continue using the AI's until it gets better (AIFM/Aromasin).....

You now know that you are ultra sensitive to estrogenic compounds, so you WILL need AI's in every cycle.

You can play Mad Scientist though and try to find ways around it through trial and errors....which can be fun......or really bad....lol.

BMJ

in your opinion what is your fave non estrogen compounds?

 

[rfowler]

bump for me input thanks to everyone that has chimed in. also I have no nipple soreness just very puffy and rapid onset.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

nolva is good letro is the strongest...but not always needed

 

[rfowler]

nolva is good letro is the strongest...but not always needed

Cauli what up bro? would you drop the nolva if it does the trick and then stick with my aromasin the rest of the way? its only the left nip? did you hear about Randy Coutoure?

 

[MR. BMJ]

I wouldn't resort to Letro as of yet.

Nolva can be ran since no apparent progestins were used.

Just continue running the AIFM or Aromasin for now (Nolva optional) and see how that goes. I would probably do 2 sparay in the morning and 2 sprays at night of AIFM until sensitivity goes away. Then adjust the dosage from there accordingly. Nolva could help as well.

Letro might be too suppressive, but is a good idea to always have it on hand from here on out on future cycles.

As for what AAS.....That will depend on your sensitivity to various compounds. If test does not bother you, then i'd always continue to use that....but you may have to do some trial and error experimentation to see what dosages are cool for you. If Test works for ya, then all other AAS that increase estro levels will probably be fine too (Dbol probably excluded obviously). However.....this will usually be dose-dependant so just keep that in mind.

BMJ

 

[rfowler]

thanks bro's.......the dbol was fun while it lasted.

 

[str8cubano]

Same thing happened to me. I remember one time my left nip got puffy, and turned red and got a bump. FOr sure it was gyno, I go the doc, he told me I needed an antibiotic because I shaved in that area and apparently I irritated it or got an ingrown hair. A few days later it was gone. Next time It happeded again, He told me to put Neosporin on it and it worked like a charm. The point is that it never fails, you start a cycle and either something goes wrong, and you get all the symtoms of what you think it is, and it could be something else. Not sure in your case, but throw everythign you got at it, and make sure its not something else..