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Supertest

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Cycle advise

Im looking to cycle sust250,EQ and winstrol depot,is this a good combination?I would really appreciate suggestions on a cycle of the above substances.
I am 5'8 176lbs-currently on high protein diet,training 5 days a week-single muscle/day routine.
Any help with this would be highly appreciated
Looking to put on size and strength
 
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Been lifting for two+ years,is my first-What doses would be most effective to pick up some quality mass.
Thanks for the insight
 
Re: Cycle advise

Supertest said:
Im looking to cycle sust250,EQ and winstrol depot,is this a good combination?I would really appreciate suggestions on a cycle of the above substances.
I am 5'8 176lbs-currently on high protein diet,training 5 days a week-single muscle/day routine.
Any help with this would be highly appreciated
Looking to put on size and strength

Sustanon250 week 1-12
D-bol 25-50MG ed 1-4
Winstrol 50MG ed 5-12

First cycle.





DIV
 
no need to stack on a first cycle, sust only 250mg e5d is way enough, you'll have to learn how your body reacts to gear
 
Triple-G said:
no need to stack on a first cycle, sust only 250mg e5d is way enough, you'll have to learn how your body reacts to gear

I agree with this, but I think he wants a stack.



DIV
 
I would suggest running 500mg's of test a week. I wouldn't stack 3 things for my first cycle. You need to see how your body responds to a single compound. You will grow well off of this. Keep it simple.
 
silverbackn said:
I would suggest running 500mg's of test a week. I wouldn't stack 3 things for my first cycle. You need to see how your body responds to a single compound. You will grow well off of this. Keep it simple.


i agree but stacking test with something like winny would be ok as far as gyno is concerned. if he is worried about hairloss i would go with a single compound.
 
KEEP IT SIMPLE:
Wk 1-10: 500mg/test
Wk 1-4: 20mg/ed Dbol(optional)
An oral isn't even necessary in this situation, let alone two of them..
So you know, my first was 250mg/wk of test for 8 weeks, put on 16lbs, lost it all due to a poorly planned PCT...
 
Test alone is the simplest and will be effective.

That said, if it were me and I were going for a mass building first cycle, Flex2win's cycle would be amost exactly what I'd use. Though the dbol ain't optional bro! I'd only adjust the dbol dose according to response starting at 20mg but allowing for 5-10mg extra if its going well. Some will say its too much with the 500mg and to them I'd say they could drop the test to 250 for the first 4 weeks of dbol, but really the test won't be kicking in well anyway, so its not a major issue. If you want to be conservative, go with just test, pick among the above variations if you feel a little more amped to bulk. All are gonna give good results if your diet and routines are solid. Study PCT bro and make sure you really are at the proper point to get on gear b/c your weight is low even for your height.
 
bicepts101 said:
i agree but stacking test with something like winny would be ok as far as gyno is concerned. if he is worried about hairloss i would go with a single compound.
I feel ya! That would be a solid first cycle. I would just rather him use d-bol and test. Stick with the classics for the first cycle, you won't be disappointed. I did 500mg's of test and 300mg's of deca. I loved it.
 
gonna have to say that u should do deca only 600 a week, if you don't get deca dick. i am almost at 20 lbs of added muscle from that cycle for 12 weeks. otherwise do test enth 500 for 12 weeks. gotta see what one thing will do to your body, if you can get good results with less juice you can save the big stackers for later when you need em.
 
it seems u'll get confused ...isn't it ...look bro it's simple asit is don't overreact against the posts since everyone of us has his own experience and trials so pick it simple ...i suggest to go with 500mg of sustanon for 6-8 weeks tops and see what's going on ...in ur first cycle no need to load much gear it's useless trust me...just like our friends on the board advise keep a good knowledge for pct as much as u can and here is a hint :
w 1 & 2 : 5000 iu's of hcg
start of week 3 : clomid " clomephine " & nolvadex " tamoxifine"

how to take clomid ?
day 1 : 300 mg
day 2 - 14 : 100 mg
day 15 -30 " 50 mg

how to take nolva ?
day 1-30 " 20 mg

it works good for me ...and i know maybe some friends here'll not agree for full pct contents as u 'll get a lot of the juice but keep urself in a safest situation .....some 'll say no need for pct for beginners cycles ..it's bullshit ...and last but not least do some research plz for god sake before getting involved : a one who tastes the juice getting charmed and armed forever believe me...peace
 
Supertest said:
Thanks guys for priceless info!

If you want to see how your body reacts to one compound, just run the Sustanon250, but if you want the optimal results you could add in D-bol and Winny at your convenience.

Nugga...




DIV
 
I would just run test ent at 250mgs a week for ten weeks. I went from 200 to 220 on that. I'm about 240 now and I don't use more than 500mgs each week these days. Slow and steady wins the race. Small doses still work great for me!
 
DIVISION said:
If you want to see how your body reacts to one compound, just run the Sustanon250, but if you want the optimal results you could add in D-bol and Winny at your convenience.

Nugga...




DIV

i couldnt agree more.....one compound=the right advise/safe cycle.....two compound first cycle=optimal results....just be careful for gyno if using two compounds and do extra, EXTRA research!
 
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