Hell with It i am doing It

[mr_disfunkshun]

Well after reading post after post I cant stand it any more I am going back On But dont feel bad I knew i was going to all long but tryed lieing to myselF for a bit So here is what i am thinking since I have been clean for 2 years and receptors Are good to go I think I will start out Kinda slow but i am used to 18-20 week cycles but out of the gate i think 12 week with 4 weeks off than 18 week with 8 weeks off than see where i am

But here is the tricky part I have been around the block I know what works for me and at what dosage I need for results but so many new things out there to try Different labs Ext....

i would like for my first 12 weeks Super test (SUS) & Deca





Week 1 1000mg Sus -200mg deca
week 2 750mg " " " " " " " " "
Week 3 500mg " 400mg deca
Week 4 500Mg 400mg deca
Week 5 1000mg 600 mg deca
Week 6 1000Mg 600 mg
week 7 750 mg 400 mg deca
Week 8 750 mg 400 mg
Week 9 750 mg 200 mg
week 10 500mg 200 mg
week11 500mg off
week12 500mg off
have Nova on hand but really ever had a problem and clomid for 3 weeks maybe HCg depending If i have to dig my balls out

Or if any has a better idea i am all ears But It's hard becasue I have been there tryed that And i know how to stagger my dosages for max gains

let me add i will break up the shots to equal out 2 times per week not all at once

 

[utahdiesel]

Good luck bro... it is hard to stay away. There's no way I could for 2 years.

 

[drrman]

Well after reading post after post I cant stand it any more I am going back On But dont feel bad I knew i was going to all long but tryed lieing to myselF for a bit So here is what i am thinking since I have been clean for 2 years and receptors Are good to go I think I will start out Kinda slow but i am used to 18-20 week cycles but out of the gate i think 12 week with 4 weeks off than 18 week with 8 weeks off than see where i am

But here is the tricky part I have been around the block I know what works for me and at what dosage I need for results but so many new things out there to try Different labs Ext....

i would like for my first 8 weeks Super test (SUS) & Deca





Week 1 1000mg Sus -200mg deca
week 2 750mg " " " " " " " " "
Week 3 500mg " 400mg deca
Week 4 500Mg 400mg deca
Week 5 1000mg 600 mg deca
Week 6 750Mg 400 mg
week 7 500 mg 400 mg deca
Week 8 500 mg 200 mg

have Nova on hand but really ever had a problem and clomid for 3 weeks maybe HCg depending If i have to dig my balls out

Or if any has a better idea i am all ears But It's hard becasue I have been there tryed that And i know how to stagger my dosages for max gains

let me add i will break up the shots to equal out 2 times per week not all at once

WHY are you spiking the test up and down like that??? might be a good idea to frontload that first week at 1 gram, but going up and down with the dosages is NOT a good idea.....just keep it at 750mg all the way till the end, same with the deca

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

Well once apon a time I did do that ran the 750 but the break down on the test is almost like a time release shifting the levels at the right time keeps a high A.S level when estar starts to break down in the blood more is added with the spike than as it goes stabble it spikes again allowing for higher saturation but just enough to make the level higher will out going over the edge, That was sharred with me by 2 time Mr florida who was my tranning partner for years who he trainned with eddie robensin, i put way more mass on this way than a clean up down cycle

 

[VascularitY]

I agree theres no need to go up and down with the dosages, keep it the same all the way

 

[linux]

but just enough to make the level higher will out going over the edge,

When you get a chance can you get clarification on this "edge" your talking about...i wasnt aware there was a point where testosterone starts to loose its effectiveness above a certain concentration

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

meaning Side effects at what level does over concentration there is a point where to much causes problems not that test losses any thing to were your body cant handle the amount of test given

ok look at it like this i run 1000mg for 10 weeks what if my BODy could only handle 800 mg so right out its too much so by staggering dosages allows the higer dose to drop than increas to high again but never dropping to low to fast thats all i am saying sorry if it did not come out right My spelling does suck

 

[drrman]

meaning Side effects at what level does over concentration there is a point where to much causes problems not that test losses any thing to were your body cant handle the amount of test given

ok look at it like this i run 1000mg for 10 weeks what if my BODy could only handle 800 mg so right out its too much so by staggering dosages allows the higer dose to drop than increas to high again but never dropping to low to fast thats all i am saying sorry if it did not come out right My spelling does suck

well in case you did NOT know this, those "fluctuations" you are speaking of are the MAIN cause of most steroid side effects.......those fluctations cause edema and acne...........those hormone "spikes" are the very thing you need to try and prevent when taking steroids, thats the whole reasoning behind sustenon's blend of esters, to keep blood levels constant without the spike

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

Well i do know and i have done cycles like this for years, One yes if you dont know your OWN limits Dont try new things I on the other hand have done cycles that some would say are crazy too much But the bottom line is what works for some may not work for others I like the stagger i have sceen more gains this way verse same does stright through SO please I am not trying to say my way is right for all But it is for me also keep in mind That I have done A.S for years like 10 and over the time you learn and try new things ,now say if a pro said somthing like this worked than its all good but becasue I say it works and because some say that staggering causes side effects than it must be so i have hit off season bulking body weights of 280 at 8% at 5 " 11 but adding muscle for me is easy it was leaning out that was the trouble , So if staggering works I am keeping it because really bro no bull shit this Does work Only with certin A.s and that in no way am I implying that this is the way to go with any onther type of A.S Because Its not but with these two tpyes of A.S It does work WITH NO SIDE EFFECTS for me anyway

 

[drrman]

Well i do know and i have done cycles like this for years, One yes if you dont know your OWN limits Dont try new things I on the other hand have done cycles that some would say are crazy too much But the bottom line is what works for some may not work for others I like the stagger i have sceen more gains this way verse same does stright through SO please I am not trying to say my way is right for all But it is for me also keep in mind That I have done A.S for years like 10 and over the time you learn and try new things ,now say if a pro said somthing like this worked than its all good but becasue I say it works and because some say that staggering causes side effects than it must be so i have hit off season bulking body weights of 280 at 8% at 5 " 11 but adding muscle for me is easy it was leaning out that was the trouble , So if staggering works I am keeping it because really bro no bull shit this Does work Only with certin A.s and that in no way am I implying that this is the way to go with any onther type of A.S Because Its not but with these two tpyes of A.S It does work WITH NO SIDE EFFECTS for me anyway

hey bro, more power to you....i see where you edited your initial post......but you came on here, posted your cycle and asked for oppinions and you got them........then you just say you know what works for you and you have been doing this 10 years and know what to do, well then why even post your cycle and ask for oppinions and advice if you already know the perfect way to run things..........

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

See thats were you are wrong you can always learn somthing new really bro its ok I like the fact that you say what you think its all good man And if someone has ideas its all good But i am not afended in any way and what you had to say is VERY VERY TRUE ,right but for most that has run hundreds of cycles some things work better than most but for years and years I did just that ran cycles like that and with certin A.S thats the only way to run them and Belive it or not When i was first told this about staggering I was Like no fucking way it went againest everthing i know and learned And besides my training partner liked messing with me in the begaining and before I started out guys would give the worst advise LOL like ean harries a a pro for a few years told me when gyno shows up lick your fingers get them real wet and rubb your nipples that will help What BULL shit , But Its all a learning process AND I FOR ONE DONT KNOW EVERY THING

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