Heat gear in the nuke?

[Mr. dB]

Anyone know if syringes are microwave safe (after removing the needle, of course)? I was wondering if nuking for a few seconds after drawing might be a convenient way to heat some stuff?

Here's the thing -- my batch of cyp from last year fucking hurts. Got the powder from a reputable guy, BEFORE Operation Raw Deal. Looked like cyp, smelled like cyp, high melting temp just like cyp. With grape seed oil and, I think, about a 2%/10% BA/BB ratio, should be pretty normal gear. But this batch gives a ton of post-injection pain. I shot my left shoulder on Monday, and it still hurts. I think I'm gonna stick with glutes and quads from now on, those sites can handle the pain better without it intruding on my life.

I wanted to try a little heat, just to thin the oil a bit and see if that lets me tolerate the gear a little better, and that's what led to the microwave question. Has anyone here ever tried that?

I suppose I could do some experiments, I've got plenty of left over grape seed oil, just to see how many seconds it takes to get it pleasantly warm without risking ruining any gear or risking burning myself. But I thought I'd bounce it off of you lot first just to see if anyone has already been there?

 

[swole]

senor db Nice to see you in the AAS forum

Do this - put a bit of water in a coffee mug. Nuke it for 2 minutes, stand your vial in it for a minute hot water bath style, now your gear is nice and thin!

 

[Mr. dB]

senor db Nice to see you in the AAS forum

Do this - put a bit of water in a coffee mug. Nuke it for 2 minutes, stand your vial in it for a minute hot water bath style, now your gear is nice and thin!

Thanks, that sound safe and sane.

I'm not on a cycle, just my maintenance old man HRT dose.

 

[OMEGA]

DO NOT microwave , i dont even use a Microwave for food lol

do as Swole Said

but would let it sit for more like 5-10 minutes and then use a pin to draw out the BA "vapor" so you know it wont settle back in

 

[SaladFork]

I preload my pins, then soak in a warm glass of water for a few minutes before pinning. I would not nuke them in the plunger... For one, I doubt the plastic is microwave safe and could warp.

I remember reading a post on here about this samething, had lots of good info. Let me see if I can find it.

 

[OMEGA]

o hai

 

[SaladFork]

o hai

Hi Omega~

Here is that post... I knew it was Eddy.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/8247350-post5.html

 

[OMEGA]

ur the man bro

 

[Mr. dB]

DO NOT microwave , i dont even use a Microwave for food lol

do as Swole Said

but would let it sit for more like 5-10 minutes and then use a pin to draw out the BA "vapor" so you know it wont settle back in

Thanks. At this point, the stopper in this 50ml bottle is pretty chewed up and would pass gas pretty easily.

 

[sparetire]

wouldn't the microwave not only risk melting the plastic (I know you said only for a few secs), but wouldn't the microwaves destroy the actual chemicals inside the mix? I would do what swole suggested.

 

[sensational]

senor db Nice to see you in the AAS forum

Do this - put a bit of water in a coffee mug. Nuke it for 2 minutes, stand your vial in it for a minute hot water bath style, now your gear is nice and thin!

Lets be scientific! Less viscous!

 

[eddymerckx]

the microwave cannot get oil-based gear hot enough to even thin it out b/c the oil molecules do not readily absorb the ionized energy which creates the heat.

to sterilize the gear it does not even come close to the proper temp--

 

[Mr. dB]

senor db Nice to see you in the AAS forum

Do this - put a bit of water in a coffee mug. Nuke it for 2 minutes, stand your vial in it for a minute hot water bath style, now your gear is nice and thin!

Monday is shoot-em-up day, so I tried this.

I dunno if it's too soon to tell, but it's looking like it was a complete success. All this time I thought I was just sensitive to the ester, but instead I think I've been injuring myself with the thick oil bolus. Heating the oil, it drew like water, and shot smooth as silk. I did leak a few drops though. A couple of hours after injection, the site doesn't feel like I got kicked by a horse.

I used grape seed oil for this batch, because it was all the rage at the time I was brewing last year. My previous batch with cotton seed oil was much less ouch-y, but it was also enanthate. I thought the grape seed oil was supposed to be less viscous than the cotton seed oil, but this does not seem to be the case.

 

[Mr. dB]

I did a quad injection today, next week I'll try a delt, that'll be the acid test.

 

[halfcenturian]

Put it on the stove top, on low for 1-2 minutes.

 

[hog#head#cheese]

I recommend burning off some of the ba if anyone remembers when IP first came out you HAD to heat up his gear especially that high mg test blend I used to do it junkie style by putting 2ml's in a spoon and heating well on a stove burner sure your exposing it to air but remember this gear is homebrew anyways this method worked for me and alot of other ip customers take it with a grain of salt

 

[Mr. dB]

Jeez, it was only 2% BA before I sterilized it.

 

[Mr. dB]

Day after report: I forgot that I was supposed to be recovering from a painful injection. I can barely find the site now. I'm declaring Swole's suggestion a success.

 

[swole]

Nice

I never shoot without heating the gear.

Mava once posted about a supp you can take to make painful gear less...painful. He'll find this thread

 

[Mr. dB]

It was really never an issue with me before this batch of homebrew. The human grade stuff was always easy to take, and before that I never had problems with the Mex vet stuff either. But this go round, every injection was like getting kicked by a horse.

I guess next time I have to brew something, I'll be going back to the cotton seed oil, or at least not this grape seed oil anymore.

 

[LoneTree]

Anyone know if syringes are microwave safe (after removing the needle, of course)? I was wondering if nuking for a few seconds after drawing might be a convenient way to heat some stuff?

Here's the thing -- my batch of cyp from last year fucking hurts. Got the powder from a reputable guy, BEFORE Operation Raw Deal. Looked like cyp, smelled like cyp, high melting temp just like cyp. With grape seed oil and, I think, about a 2%/10% BA/BB ratio, should be pretty normal gear. But this batch gives a ton of post-injection pain. I shot my left shoulder on Monday, and it still hurts. I think I'm gonna stick with glutes and quads from now on, those sites can handle the pain better without it intruding on my life.

I wanted to try a little heat, just to thin the oil a bit and see if that lets me tolerate the gear a little better, and that's what led to the microwave question. Has anyone here ever tried that?

I suppose I could do some experiments, I've got plenty of left over grape seed oil, just to see how many seconds it takes to get it pleasantly warm without risking ruining any gear or risking burning myself. But I thought I'd bounce it off of you lot first just to see if anyone has already been there?

Heating it will only make the injection process faster.
It will turn to body temprature in just a few minutes. If you have pain for 2-3 days, then it is probably from inflammation. Heating will make no difference to inflammation, but you may be able to use a smaller needle, and that by itself may decrease pain.

 

[Mr. dB]

Heating it will only make the injection process faster.
It will turn to body temprature in just a few minutes. If you have pain for 2-3 days, then it is probably from inflammation. Heating will make no difference to inflammation, but you may be able to use a smaller needle, and that by itself may decrease pain.

Well, for whatever reason, decreasing the viscosity of this batch of gear when injecting it appears to make the injection site less painful.

One thing I am quite certain of is that the pain was not the result of sterility issues -- bacteria and infection. And it didn't matter whether I used 23g or 25g needles, I have plenty of both to choose from.

Whenever I shot this shit, the site hurt for at least five days. The feeling was exactly the same as a bruise, except that there was no visual evidence of bruising. My guess is that I was bruising or injuring my muscle, and decreasing the viscosity of the grape seed oil through heat appears to reduce the injury to insignificance.

 

[needtogetaas]

Thanks, that sound safe and sane.

I'm not on a cycle, just my maintenance old man HRT dose.