HEart Murmur???

[DecaBallz]

One of the guys at the gym is freakin out, he's on his third cycle and he started feelin chest pains soo he went to the dr. and they said he had a heart murmur, Is this serious??? Is this from juice? im tryin to calm him down but dont know what too tell him, anyone have any idea on this? They gave him a EKG and a xtray and all looked fine, and in a couple days he's having a echogram, any ideas bros??

 

[nuh_mizer]

I've had stuff like that for years. If the doctors say he's ok, chances are he is.

 

[DecaBallz]

I've had stuff like that for years. If the doctors say he's ok, chances are he is.

You have had heart murmurs for years??? these things gooo away? need all the info i can get for this guy.

 

[Malleus]

heart murmurs aren't too big of a deal.... if his doc clears him he's fine.... and i also find it highly improbable that roids would cause this condition.

 

[embolicintent]

Lots of people have heart murmurs. They are almost always nothing to worry about. The echocardiogram will clearly identify the type of murmur. Chances are that it is something that he has had all of his life and just never knew it until someone listened. However, without having heard the murmur I just could not tell you how serious it is. The chest pain is likely unrelated. How old is your friend. If he is young, does not smoke, eats and of course excercises, and does not have a significant family history of heart disease, then it is likely nothing. However, it is probably wise to have a cardiac stress test performed to be sure. The use of gear is not likely to have any relation to the murmur. However, it undeniably increases the risk of heart disease (i.e. heart attacks).

 

[Only1eagle]

A heart murmur is just an irregular beat of the heart.

EX: beat beat beat beatbeat beat beat beat beatbeat

If you have one it is with you all your life (as far as I know)

I was told I had one when born. Only time it EVER bothers me is around new years day hung over as butt and ehydrated to hell! My heart flipping beats like a tomtom drum

Other than that unless it is diagnosed as a very bad one it should be nothing to worry about.

 

[embolicintent]

Not to step on your toes eagle, but an irregular heart beat is an arrythmia not a murmur. A murmur is a sound that is produced from a flow abnormality such as a hole between the two sides of the heart or a malfunctioning heart valve. It is certainly possible to have both an arrythmia and a murmur, but the two are different entities. The arrythmia represents an irregularity in the conduction system of the heart which causes it to contract. This can be more serious than a murmur because it can cause you to have blood clots in your heart which can dislodge and go to the brain causing a stroke. That said, the majority of arrythmias are pretty harmless as well. Anyhow, just some 411.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Heart murmurs are freaky. Your heart beats thumpity THUMP thumpity THUMP thumpity THUMP thumpity THUMP THUMP thumpity thumpity thumpity thumpity thumpity THUMP! And that last thump can feel like a cannon ball in your chest... and believe it or not it is so normal and common place doctors don't even care about it.

 

[FatFinaHead]

Can one develope an arythmia over the course of a lifetime. Just curious. Or is it something you are born with?

 

[Only1eagle]

Ok well I got it wrong thanks for pointing it out tho! Karma to you.

If I rem correctly I have a tiny hole somewhere in my heart= the murmur.

However I must also have the srythmia since my heart goes thumpety thump wierd like sometime also

 

[embolicintent]

We all have our areas of knowledge and thats what makes this place so great. Everyone is here to learn, teach and occasionally throw around a little BS. When it comes to holes in the heart, there are basically two types, the ASD and the VSD. The ASD (atrial septal defect) is pretty common. It results in shunting of blood from the high pressure left side of the heart to the low pressure right side of the heart. The amount of shunting depends on how big the hole is. Tiny is good. Most people with this heart defect do not have any symptoms during early life though some will be physically underdevelped and might be more prone to respiratory infections. The real problems can occur with age. Because you increase the flow of blood into the right side of the heart, this increases the pressure. The heart responds by the muscle increasing in size and thickness in order to deal with the increased pressure and still be able to push blood to the lungs. As these individuals hit their 30's and 40's, there is a tendency to develop an atrial arrythmia. As time goes on the pressure in the right side of the heart approaches equality to the left sided pressure and eventually blood flow across this hole will reverse and non-oxygenated blood from the right side of the heart will begin to flow into the left sided (oxygenated) blood flow. When this occurs, heart failure tends to follow. Of course this is usually on into the late 50's to 70's. If you have this type of defect and are under 40, then evaluation by a cardiologist to see how it has progressed and to see about the potential for repair could extend life expectancy a good bit. This is getting long so I won't discuss the VSD (ventricular septal defect) now. As for your ? Fina, yes most arrythmias come on later in life. Congenital (at birth) arrythmias are pretty rare and tend to be more serious.

 

[bumpo]

I had one ater the use of testo. it went away after a few months.

it could be genetic and he could have no problems.

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[FatFinaHead]

We all have our areas of knowledge and thats what makes this place so great. Everyone is here to learn, teach and occasionally throw around a little BS. When it comes to holes in the heart, there are basically two types, the ASD and the VSD. The ASD (atrial septal defect) is pretty common. It results in shunting of blood from the high pressure left side of the heart to the low pressure right side of the heart. The amount of shunting depends on how big the hole is. Tiny is good. Most people with this heart defect do not have any symptoms during early life though some will be physically underdevelped and might be more prone to respiratory infections. The real problems can occur with age. Because you increase the flow of blood into the right side of the heart, this increases the pressure. The heart responds by the muscle increasing in size and thickness in order to deal with the increased pressure and still be able to push blood to the lungs. As these individuals hit their 30's and 40's, there is a tendency to develop an atrial arrythmia. As time goes on the pressure in the right side of the heart approaches equality to the left sided pressure and eventually blood flow across this hole will reverse and non-oxygenated blood from the right side of the heart will begin to flow into the left sided (oxygenated) blood flow. When this occurs, heart failure tends to follow. Of course this is usually on into the late 50's to 70's. If you have this type of defect and are under 40, then evaluation by a cardiologist to see how it has progressed and to see about the potential for repair could extend life expectancy a good bit. This is getting long so I won't discuss the VSD (ventricular septal defect) now. As for your ? Fina, yes most arrythmias come on later in life. Congenital (at birth) arrythmias are pretty rare and tend to be more serious.

How would one know he may have this? I ask because I have reached the age of 30 and the last 2 months I have been getting a sort of fluttering in my chest. This tends to take my breath away and causes me to cough some times. Weird fucking feeling. It is starting to worry me. I do suffer from panic attacks, but these are not panic attacks. I have delt with enough panic attacks in my life to know this is not one. No panicing envolved. Just these wierd thumping feelings and the gasping. It also weakens me when it happens.

Any clues?

 

[embolicintent]

If you think you have an arrythmia then you should just go to your doctor and tell him/her what is going on. Then you can be put on something called a Holter monitor. This is just a little box that you wear on your belt for a day or so and it records your heart's activity. Then you will know if it is your heart. As for murmurs, your doctor can listen with a stethoscope and tell you if there is or isn't a murmur. He may not be able to tell what type it is if there is one, but he can say if it is or isn't present. You are describing symptoms that can be from an arrythmia, but it sounds much more like what are called palpitations. These are extremely common with panic attacks though you may not have had them in the past. They are not necessarily related to episodes of panic. In fact many people with "panic attacks" actually start out with just palpitations. Then they develop anxiety, fear, and concern about the attacks. This then pushes their condition in to what is then termed anxiety disorder. If not dealt with some go on to develop agoraphobia which is the fear of being in places where escape might be difficult such as crowds, bridges, standing in lines, riding buses/trains etc.. Anyhow, before someone can truly be diagnosed with panic disorder, medical causes such as arrythmias must be ruled out. Therefore if you have been diagnosed with this, then you should have had at the very least an EKG first. I would caution you about taking yohimbine as well as it is a famous trigger of panic attacks. I would reccomend you go get a Holter from your doc and at least put your mind at ease that it is nothing serious.

 

[embolicintent]

If you think you have an arrythmia then you should just go to your doctor and tell him/her what is going on. Then you can be put on something called a Holter monitor. This is just a little box that you wear on your belt for a day or so and it records your heart's activity. Then you will know if it is your heart. As for murmurs, your doctor can listen with a stethoscope and tell you if there is or isn't a murmur. He may not be able to tell what type it is if there is one, but he can say if it is or isn't present. You are describing symptoms that can be from an arrythmia, but it sounds much more like what are called palpitations. These are extremely common with panic attacks though you may not have had them in the past. They are not necessarily related to episodes of panic. In fact many people with "panic attacks" actually start out with just palpitations. Then they develop anxiety, fear, and concern about the attacks. This then pushes their condition in to what is then termed anxiety disorder. If not dealt with some go on to develop agoraphobia which is the fear of being in places where escape might be difficult such as crowds, bridges, standing in lines, riding buses/trains etc.. Anyhow, before someone can truly be diagnosed with panic disorder, medical causes such as arrythmias must be ruled out. Therefore if you have been diagnosed with this, then you should have had at the very least an EKG first. I would caution you about taking yohimbine as well as it is a famous trigger of panic attacks. I would reccomend you go get a Holter from your doc and at least put your mind at ease that it is nothing serious.