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HCG -- when do you need it?

nashtnman

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I understand that you don't always need HCG for recovery, but I'm not sure when need to need it. Is it based on the number of weeks you were on gear? The amound of gear you used? An inability to get wood? Significant ball shrinkage? Thanks!
 
Medicine tells you that prevention is always the smarter way to go. Prevent your testicles from atrophy and they will recover faster. Do I have a study to back me up on this? No. But ANY organ or body part that gets atrophyc by disuse takes longer to recover than a preserved one.
Testicular atrophy degree will vary with AAS dose, cycle lenght, and sensivity of the subject. I´d say it has more to do with HOW MUCH TIME OF INHIBITION THERE IS, so you´ll have to take into consideration for how long a significative amount of AAS will be present.
I´d say , empirically, to use it every 3 weeks of the cycle, including pre-Clomid phase.
Example, in a deca/Test Enth 10 weeks cycle, I´d use HCG in the third, sixth , ninth and 12nd week, beginning Clomid on the 14th.
I´d use 1500UI EOD in the weeks I´d use.
I´m sure there are a thousand other ways to do this, and people that don´t use it at all, trusting on anti -A to do the trick.
But I assure you that full testis recover faster.
 
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Thanks for the answer. I never thought to use HCG DURING a cycle, just after. But you're right: an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I'm still not sure at what point the balls atrophy and require the HCG, though.
 
It depends on the AAS. As soon as there is enough concentration of the AAS to inhibit hypothalamus and pituitary, your testicles will stop being stimulated and will begin the atrophy process. It will happen sooner with short esters, orals and hydrossoluble preparations and it will take longer with the long esters.I suggest to begin in the 3rd week because if you´re taking fast acting AAS your testis are probably already inhibited but not long enough to promote significative atrophy, and if you are taking the slower ones, it´s just beggining.
 
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