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RdStrcklnd

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This is for a later cycle, was thinking of doing 300mg deca with 600mg Eq for 8 weeks, how would you guys run HCG with that?
 
I was thinking of doing it mid cycle and then again at the end between my last shot and post cycle stuff? Any suggestions how to run that?
 
You shouldn't experience too much nut shrinkage in 8 weeks but the H C G will help with recovery.
It is very tricky to use H C G post cycle as it can quickly increase test levels and this can then be inhibitory. It is much better to use H C G during a cycle to prevent testes shrinkage in the first place OR at the very least use it for the last two weeks of your cycle.

Dose should be low and not for too long. if you use H C G at too high a dose and ot for more than a few weeks it will desensitize the testes to LH.

Try H C G at 500 iu's per day either IM or subQ duriing weeks 4 and 5 and then again for two weeks after your last shot of injectables. Then hit the clomid at 300 mg on day one three weeks after your last shot. Continue with clomid at 50 per day for at least 3 weeks.

Be sure to use Nolvadex or clomid with the H C G. An estrogen blocker is needed when using H C G since H C G increases estrogen as well as test. Arimidex will not help since the estrogen is made directly by the testes and not via testosterone conversion.

RG:)
 
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As always, you have the best info on the boards Realgains. Thanks for the help, trust me, I'd give you more karma if I could.
 
solidspine said:
Do 1500iu per week for 3 weeks post cycle.

HCG does nothing to restore HPTA function. HCG should only be used during a cycle to stop atrophy from happening. Also dont use HCG while on Clomid it will hinder its actions.
 
Realgains said:
You shouldn't experience too much nut shrinkage in 8 weeks but the H C G will help with recovery.
It is very tricky to use H C G post cycle as it can quickly increase test levels and this can then be inhibitory. It is much better to use H C G during a cycle to prevent testes shrinkage in the first place OR at the very least use it for the last two weeks of your cycle.

Dose should be low and not for too long. if you use H C G at too high a dose and ot for more than a few weeks it will desensitize the testes to LH.

Try H C G at 500 iu's per day either IM or subQ duriing weeks 4 and 5 and then again for two weeks after your last shot of injectables. Then hit the clomid at 300 mg on day one three weeks after your last shot. Continue with clomid at 50 per day for at least 3 weeks.

Be sure to use Nolvadex or clomid with the H C G. An estrogen blocker is needed when using H C G since H C G increases estrogen as well as test. Arimidex will not help since the estrogen is made directly by the testes and not via testosterone conversion.

RG:)

Im not sure if i believe all of this anymore, i saw an article on msnbc.com that anastrozole is a better treatment for advanced breast cancer in post menopausal women than nolvadex since it is an aromatase inhibitor, at the least. But I dont think in post menopausal women E2 is only made via conversion from testosterone, which would be the only way to explain these findings unless it blocked estrogen by another means.

NFG
 
10-20mgs ed should be plenty. run the nolva for 5 days after hcg is discontinued, assuming clomid is started before you drop nolvadex.
 
RdStrcklnd said:
This is for a later cycle, was thinking of doing 300mg deca with 600mg Eq for 8 weeks, how would you guys run HCG with that?

Dilute 1amp (5000mg) with 9cc of Sterile water for 10cc total, this gives you 500mg/ml. Use Diabetic needles (insulin) and inject daily the last 10 days of your cycle.....once through, you can begin clomid therapy post cycle with rapid results.

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