HCG required for all cycles? even light cycle?

[tempest2003]

hey guys, im not lookin for a flame here, but ive never used HCG before and im running a light cycle of 400mg deca a week for 10 weeks with 50mg winny e/d for 7 weeks. now is HCG a necessity? or will i be fine with just nolva? i have plenty of nolva, but HCG somehow seemd to have sliped by me? that is asking for a flame i know but im looking for some actual help here, im a 1 1/2 weeks into my deca and wondering now what I should do.... I appreciate the help guys, thanks

 

[LT3]

you should add test, and IMO HCG is needed with deca. and im assuming youre running the deca for at least 12 weeks, since deca is pretty useless for shorter periods. thus youll be pretty shutdown. so ye i would say you'll need it, and bro add some test, even if its at 300mgs a week. your body needs test.

 

[|3ossman]

i would definatly run hcg with that cycle. light or not, after 10 weeks you will be shut down, and have testicular atrophy.

check out the stickies in the pct forum, they will explain everything you need to know, great info in there.

 

[tempest2003]

i dont need test, im already up 7lbs in the last 2 weeks, why would I need test? test is so hard to keep the gains from unless you plan on continually running the cycle. So is there any liquid reaserch pages its avalible from? or a bro I need to know? thanks

 

[buffalo]

Deca and winny with no test? yeah most people would be needing some hcg but you never know you may not. Some people don't get shut down that bad at all,you'll just have to find out if your one of them or not.

 

[Mr.X]

i dont need test, im already up 7lbs in the last 2 weeks, why would I need test? test is so hard to keep the gains from unless you plan on continually running the cycle. So is there any liquid reaserch pages its avalible from? or a bro I need to know? thanks

Sounds like you need a lot more research. It's actually easier to keep gains from test then deca.

 

[tempest2003]

ah, perhaps i am mistaken, but from all the reaserch ive read so far deca seems much easier to keep.

 

[Mr.X]

ah, perhaps i am mistaken, but from all the reaserch ive read so far deca seems much easier to keep.

Add a test base to the cycle and for your PCT you can run HCG and nolva.

 

[JohnnyWest]

ah, perhaps i am mistaken, but from all the reaserch ive read so far deca seems much easier to keep.

Deca, just like tren, will most likely shut you down hard. HCG isn't an absolute neccessity but I think it's very improtant to have for an easier recovery.

 

[SwolK]

tempest2003,
listen to Mr X and others. you need test with that cycle, not just for the gains, but to keep from getting "Deca Dick". If you had done your research as you claim, then you would know about deca dick and that it is never advised to run deca with out at least a small dose of test!

 

[|3ossman]

wow you have alot to learn! just from the few comments you made on the top of this thread, its pretty clear that you dont have a clue

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Nolva+HCG+Arimidex for ALL CYCLES..!

 

[mikevegas]

Winny isn't known for shutting down your balls. What I'd do if I were you is overlap the drugs in the middle, not the whole cycle. Four weeks Deca, four weeks Deca and Winny combined, four weeks Winny. This will help you keep gains when coming off, and make the HCG not completely necessary unless you abuse the Deca mgs.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Winny isn't known for shutting down your balls. What I'd do if I were you is overlap the drugs in the middle, not the whole cycle. Four weeks Deca, four weeks Deca and Winny combined, four weeks Winny. This will help you keep gains when coming off, and make the HCG not completely necessary unless you abuse the Deca mgs.

Good advice...the winny is short acting and will be out of your system fast uppon cesation...unlike deca which has a long halflife.

 

[tempest2003]

tempest2003,
listen to Mr X and others. you need test with that cycle, not just for the gains, but to keep from getting "Deca Dick". If you had done your research as you claim, then you would know about deca dick and that it is never advised to run deca with out at least a small dose of test!

man fuck off, ive done deca before, i dont get deca dick, i preform like champ without fail, you wanna tell me straight up I dont know shit? I may not know a lot, but I have been on these boards a lot longer than you have, there is a lot to learn in this field, especially with all the conflicting informationa valible between websites.

 

[tempest2003]

wow you have alot to learn! just from the few comments you made on the top of this thread, its pretty clear that you dont have a clue

*extends middle finger*

 

[cougar8]

*extends middle finger*

Chill Bro. Why the anger? This is a good discussion...there is no need to get all fired up about others comments. Also I might point out that being on a board longer than someone doesn't mean you have more knowledge than them on the subject. Relax...and take a little criticism now and then. There is nothing wrong with people having a different opinion than you. All is good bro!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

 

[SwolK]

man fuck off, ive done deca before, i dont get deca dick, i preform like champ without fail, you wanna tell me straight up I dont know shit? I may not know a lot, but I have been on these boards a lot longer than you have, there is a lot to learn in this field, especially with all the conflicting informationa valible between websites.

you need to relax! you dont see me telling others to F-off. you being on the board longer then me does not mean anything. Everyone is giving you constructive critism to help you! if we did not want to help you then we would not be giving our suggestions. but now im sure most people are fed up with your reactions above. Actually, I dont even care anymore, do what ever you want!

 

[|3ossman]

all the reaserch ive read so far deca seems much easier to keep.

i dont need test, im already up 7lbs in the last 2 weeks, why would I need test? test is so hard to keep the gains from unless you plan on continually running the cycle.

you want to flip me off, just because i state the obvious? sorry BRO, but these two comments right here prove you have no IDEA wtf you are talking about

 

[tempest2003]

tempest2003,
listen to Mr X and others. you need test with that cycle, not just for the gains, but to keep from getting "Deca Dick". If you had done your research as you claim, then you would know about deca dick and that it is never advised to run deca with out at least a small dose of test!

you criticize me for shooting down "constructive criticism" now explain to me how this is constructive, or even helpful? I take you for a smart ass, sorry.