HCG or No?

[cityhick]

HOw many of you guys will ise HCG in a simple 350mg/week 10 week long cycle? My PCT looks like....

Weeks 1-10 10 mg Nova per day
Weeks 11-12 EAT!
Weeks 13-14 40mg Nolvadex per day
Weeks 15-18 20mg Nolvadex per day
Weeks1-12-.5mg Adex ED

Should I just ad clomid? Run HCG too? This is my first cycle.

 

[25homes]

No HCG bro but I would add some clomid if it were me!!

 

[Juiced]

If I were you I would no doubt add in HCG even though it was a minimal dosed cycle your body is still shut down, and getting your levels back up as fast as possible is your goal in order to keep most of your gains, with HCG being pretty cheap I cant see why you wouldnt want to use it, just take it at 500iu ed for 3 weeks along with 20mg nolva weeks 1-6 after and you should be ok...

 

[Bruce]

i would never do pct without hcg. you need to get your testes back to size or you will not recover right. i don't give a fuck, i'm doing a light cycle of eq and tbol no test at all and still am gonna run hcg. i don't fuck around with my nuts they are too useful.

 

[Mr.X]

Most cycles don't require HCG, but better be safe then sorry. 500IUs for 10 days will only aid your recovery

 

[Neo22]

hcg is a must with any cycle, i dont care what anyone says on here that thinks otherwise.

 

[mr. snakes]

HOw many of you guys will ise HCG in a simple 350mg/week 10 week long cycle? My PCT looks like....

Weeks 1-10 10 mg Nova per day
Weeks 11-12 EAT!
Weeks 13-14 40mg Nolvadex per day
Weeks 15-18 20mg Nolvadex per day
Weeks1-12-.5mg Adex ED

Should I just ad clomid? Run HCG too? This is my first cycle.

I use it on large cycles when my nuts have been shut down for a long period .

 

[JohnnyWest]

I use it on every cycle except 3-4 week cycles.

 

[amandhody]

i read a study that hcg should be used only 500 iu every third day.anymore than that will convert into estrogen.also impotency caused by steroids is generaly reversible but with hcg,if taken more would result in permanent damage to your gonada..500iu every 3rd day and u'll be gud.a little less result is always better than a permanent damage

 

[Snarling Force]

I've done with and without and for me personally, the recovery with far exceeds the recovery without so I'm never not use HCG for PCT again. BTW, when will AG Guys get HCG? I've been hearing about it for a while now, but I still see nothing on their website.

 

[bigtasty25]

500 every 3rd day is kinda alot...200iu eod is the way to go for safety and effectiveness over the long haul...

 

[Big_Joe]

I posted some research on another thread but I think it will go here nicely also.

Here is a study about intratesticular testosterone compared to serum testosterone before and after suppression from testosterone enanthate.
intratesticular testosterone

Here is one for the guys worried about primary hypogonadism. This study uses hcg at high dosages, 5000 iu three times a week, for six month without damage to the lydig cells.
High dose hcg

With these studies I think it is just good sense to use hcg during every cycle. Personally I now use 500 iu every other day while on cycle.

 

[Indy]

HOw many of you guys will ise HCG in a simple 350mg/week 10 week long cycle? My PCT looks like....

Weeks 1-10 10 mg Nova per day
Weeks 11-12 EAT!
Weeks 13-14 40mg Nolvadex per day
Weeks 15-18 20mg Nolvadex per day
Weeks1-12-.5mg Adex ED

Should I just ad clomid? Run HCG too? This is my first cycle.

I use mid cycle, end of cycle, and pct, EVERY cycle.

 

[turbogreek]

I use mid cycle, end of cycle, and pct, EVERY cycle.

mid cycle and end of cycle...just prior to clomid therapy for me too.

 

[cityhick]

Thanks bros. Now if AG Guys get it in stock.....Not many UGs have it.... And the Human grade places all have huge min orders.....I odnt need a half a grand of HCG for a 300-500mgs test.

 

[Prizz]

Thanks bros. Now if AG Guys get it in stock.....Not many UGs have it.... And the Human grade places all have huge min orders.....I odnt need a half a grand of HCG for a 300-500mgs test.

Yeah, once they get HCG and IGF1 in stock, they are gonna see sales BOOM>>>>>

rizz

 

[cityhick]

Yeah, once they get HCG and IGF1 in stock, they are gonna see sales BOOM>>>>>

rizz

True....but thats like saying when as soon as I can piss gold I would be rich. The question is if it will ever happen..... And I cant keep waiting to start my cycle for them......I wont start without EVERYTHING ON HAND. Im at too high of BF to be careless and have to be paranoid about estorgen levels.

 

[MADBALL99]

Big joe, where in that study say there is no damage ??

 

[AhMadKooL]

Always no matter how big or small is my cycle i use HCG; As for your test cycle PCT should be Letro, clomid and HCG

 

[cityhick]

I think I am just going to be using Nolva/HCG/Adex.

 

[tin2]

i read a study that hcg should be used only 500 iu every third day.anymore than that will convert into estrogen.also impotency caused by steroids is generaly reversible but with hcg,if taken more would result in permanent damage to your gonada..500iu every 3rd day and u'll be gud.a little less result is always better than a permanent damage

Thats caused by desensitization which can be blocked by taking a low dose of nolvadex while on hcg

 

[guicedguido]

HCG mimics LH and when you take large doses of HCG at one time you then can cause severe damage to the receptors doses over 1200. That said at 200 eod or 500 e3d are both beneficial and would not likely cause any significant damage. I swear by HCG and should be taken after any cycle that goes over 5 wks because your natural production will be shutdown.

 

[The Rage]

mid cycle and end of cycle...just prior to clomid therapy for me too.

same for me

 

[solidspine]

I would, bring your nuts back and keep your gains, or something

but I only do it AFTER my cycle, no reason to do hcg mid-cycle.

 

[yonkers weights]

You must use it to get your test up after a cycle. Best for your body. If you don't use you will loose. Why loose what you just worked hard for?

 

[LAN T]

I've done with and without and for me personally, the recovery with far exceeds the recovery without so I'm never not use HCG for PCT again.

Ditto.

 

[CO B-man]

It works so incredibly well, its super inexpensive and its my boys I am talking about so Hell yeah I use it. ten days straight at 500 IU's a day you will be back (in size anyway). I use it mid cycle only when they start to feel a little crampy like right now. On day 2!

 

[yonkers weights]

Example

10 Week Cycle I would use clomid in week 5 and then use HCG week 11 and 12. 500 iu each day.