HCG didnt help my boys..

[JuicedAthletics]

Cycle was about 6 months of test, tren and npp... I took 5000iu's of HCG for the last 1.5-2 weeks of the cycle.. All esters have cleared my system by about 2 weeks now.. I am running Novaldex at 40mg everyday for another week then drop to 30, 20, 10 for the following 4 weeks.. I followed the HCG and PCT scheme that I have always used. All my gear is real (HG). Did my boys just shrink up and decide not to come back?? I will be running a dbol bridge at 10mg every morning for the next 5 months or so.. I have done this before and although it takes me just a little longer to recover, i do. Bloodwork done.. I just run my PCT for 6 weeks instead of 4.. So what do you guys think? Are they small forever? LOL

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

not really sure... just a side question - if someone was to use a lot of gear over say 10 years would this person most likely need to use HRT for rest of life or would the body usually recover?

 

[djsf]

Maybe your HCG was no good. Like GH, HCG is fragile stuff - if left in the heat or shaken too much it can deterioriate and lose its potency. When getting stuff UG, there's no way to know for sure if it is any good. I am pretty sure I have gotten bogus HCG before, because one batch didn't work for me and another batch worked great.

I think (from my experience only) you can tell when HCG is "working" because you feel an achey feeling in your balls, not unpleasant, kind of like you need to "bust a nut" I am inclined to believe that is the feeling of the HCG "working" and doing its job to quickly regrow your boys. Did you notice that senation when you took your HCG? If you felt nothing at all, I am inclined to suspect bad HCG.

Also, what was your dosing amount and schedule for HCG when you did it?

 

[Ulter]

You took 5000iu over a 10 to 14 day period. Is that right? And when did you do this?

 

[AMGETR]

Do 3000iu 3x a week for 2 weeks. See how that does?

 

[BLACKDOOG]

You should of had run the hcg for the last 10 days of your cycle at 1000 iu's every day then go with Clomid 100mg first 20 days then 50mg the next 10 days plus Nolvadex 40mg for the whole 30 days and clenbuterol 100mcg a day for the whole 30 days. this worked good for me.

Cycle was about 6 months of test, tren and npp... I took 5000iu's of HCG for the last 1.5-2 weeks of the cycle.. All esters have cleared my system by about 2 weeks now.. I am running Novaldex at 40mg everyday for another week then drop to 30, 20, 10 for the following 4 weeks.. I followed the HCG and PCT scheme that I have always used. All my gear is real (HG). Did my boys just shrink up and decide not to come back?? I will be running a dbol bridge at 10mg every morning for the next 5 months or so.. I have done this before and although it takes me just a little longer to recover, i do. Bloodwork done.. I just run my PCT for 6 weeks instead of 4.. So what do you guys think? Are they small forever? LOL

 

[JuicedAthletics]

What I did was break my 5000iu's into about 6-7 shots E3D or E4D for the last two weeks of my cycle... Or maybe it was the last week (10 days) of my cycle.. I have been running Novaldex at 40mgs ED since then.. I dont like Clomid and I have read studies that show Novaldex alone will produce equal results...

I usually notice that my boys get plump a couple days after my initial administration of HCG.. All of my HCG has been bought together and stored together.. In a closet away from heat, humidity and everything else...

 

[djsf]

Out of all the PCT items you are taking, HCG is the only one that grows back your boys. The others are there to block estrogen and to increase test production. If you have used HCG before and it worked, but this time it didn't, then it seems reasonable to conclude there was maybe something wrong with your HCG. Or... another conclusion is it wasn't enough.

I see you ran 6 months of test and tren. That is a long cycle, plus tren is notoriously difficult to recover from! With a cycle like that, you might need multiple treatments of HCG, probably at least 10,000 iu's and maybe more. I would run a second course of HCG, doing it 1000 iu eod or 500 iu ed for 10 days, then go from there.

There is a long, informative post by RADAR on his difficult recovery from a long tren cycle. You might want to find and read that thread for some tren-specific ideas.

 

[JuicedAthletics]

Thank You!! Ill Read Up On That....

 

[exlax]

did you keep the HCG refrigerated? did the person you bought it from keep it refrigerated?

 

[krishna]

That happened to me on tren/test. 5000 iu's total isn't very much either. What finally worked for me was tbol, prov, and trib. Once I got my libido back, I took some more nolva and recovered in no time.