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Hcg!!! Big Problem

aaron10121

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let me start off by sayig, this is not intended to ask for any source.

i have been seeing endocrinologist after endocrinologist, urologist after urologist. unfortunately, after many cycles, i have screwed up my natural testosterone production. my t levels are around 300 at the moment. 29 yrs old. i have done much research and many of the doctors dont know a single thing about hcg. so, none will prescribe me it, along with clomid, and nolvadex. the only doctors that will prescribe it around here are anti-aging doctors, that want to put me on hrt.. they say, the program is $4500, and they put u on test, hgh, along with other substances..i do not want to get put on testosterone now for life. not at my age. i dont want to have any risk of infertility.plus, i'd just rather not risk any more problems with my body. i dont regret the use of steroids, but truthfully, i am paying for it now. also, i dont believe my natural test is gone. i just feel i need maybe a bit of a kick start, and i know hcg and clomid would probably work. my question is, what the hell do i do to get hcg. what would u do? <in a legal way> is there a certain doctor that i can ask, that knows about hcg and can prescribe this? and knows correct dosages, etc.? its like, every time i find a new doctor, it takes 3-5 wks to get an appt with them, and then they want to go through a consultation first.. well this has been stretched out for over a yr now and i feel like fuckin hell.. ive gone through thousands of dollars in bloodwork. i dont know what to do.. and my libido levels are just absolutely gone.. my wife has had to deal with this and it just sucks.. what else do i do.. again, dont take this as asking for a source, just tell me what u would do in this situation, going about it in a legal fashion..

best regards,

Aaron
 
lion.. i read that post. it just says protocol. nothing about certain doctors.. i even brought this excerpt, (which u had given me before), but the last urologist i went to said, well im not trained in this area, so i cant do anything for u... this has dragged on for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long, and im stuck...its like im in the yellow pages every day, just trying to guess on which doc is going to prescribe hcg, then when i make an appt, which is 3-5 wks later that i get to see them, they say, i dont know anything about this, go see this guy go see that guy....6 wks of this problem has turned into 4 months, then has turned into 6 months, then 9 months, now a yr of dealing with this.. its horrible dealing with NON EXISTENT libido. ughhh i hate this
 
aaron10121 said:
lion.. i read that post. it just says protocol. nothing about certain doctors.. i even brought this excerpt, (which u had given me before), but the last urologist i went to said, well im not trained in this area, so i cant do anything for u... this has dragged on for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long, and im stuck...its like im in the yellow pages every day, just trying to guess on which doc is going to prescribe hcg, then when i make an appt, which is 3-5 wks later that i get to see them, they say, i dont know anything about this, go see this guy go see that guy....6 wks of this problem has turned into 4 months, then has turned into 6 months, then 9 months, now a yr of dealing with this.. its horrible dealing with NON EXISTENT libido. ughhh i hate this
Don't know if you're still having this problem, bro, but if so, you need to see SWALE--the premier expert on restoring HPTA function in folks like you. Check out his website at AllthingsMale.com. And no, I have no financial or other interest in the doc's practice; rather, I'm just a very satisfied patient.
 
parteeman said:
Don't know if you're still having this problem, bro, but if so, you need to see SWALE--the premier expert on restoring HPTA function in folks like you. Check out his website at AllthingsMale.com. And no, I have no financial or other interest in the doc's practice; rather, I'm just a very satisfied patient.

I'm a little lost ...... and I admit a doubter when it comes to clinics such as The Man Cave.

SWALE? The site is about Dr. Crisler and his anti-aging office/clinic in Lansing, Michigan. What is swale?

From what I can see, he offers the usual test/HGH HRT program. He also offers through his online pharmacy for his patients some other medications ... anti-e's and some limited pct products. The prices are super high!

How much of this does your insurance cover?

Why pct if this is an HRT program? Pct is for cycle recovery. Cycles are not HRT.

And ... why can't the site pages be printed? I had to trick Windows into printing any of the info. Odd.

I did find a way to pull off enough info to take to my Dr. Should be interesting to see if they know each other through the U of Mich Hospital or perhaps St. Joseph Mercy Hospital system.

Glad you are happy with the treatment.
 
I treat my HRT as mini cycles. Im not ready to shut natural test down. Maybe
someone can correct me here but you shouldnt have any problem acquiring
HCG or anti e's. Im pretty sure anti es are not controlled meds and HCG may fall in this category also. You can keep running Test without HCG and youll
be looking for your testicles with a microscope! :worried:

I would run HGH forever if I could financially!
 
filthyr said:
I treat my HRT as mini cycles. Im not ready to shut natural test down. Maybe
someone can correct me here but you shouldnt have any problem acquiring
HCG or anti e's. Im pretty sure anti es are not controlled meds and HCG may fall in this category also. You can keep running Test without HCG and youll
be looking for your testicles with a microscope! :worried:

I would run HGH forever if I could financially!
I have to agree with you 100% If you run test constantly without a break you have to do hcg at least once every 6 months, I ran it a while back and the boys filled up and have stayed that way, I've never done hgh,from what i gather you can stay on test continuosly without your nuts shrinking as long as you are taking hgh?
 
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