HCG and natural test level clarification

[nygiants]

here is what i think I know:

When taking synthetic test your ability to produce natural test stops.

So my first question is...at what point does it stop?

also I know that you will hit rock bottom if you do not take HCG at the end of a cycle and the synthetic test leaves your system and your natural test levels will take some time to come back to normal.

Without HCG, how long would that take?

Also I know that HCG kicks your natural test levels back into gear and should be taken 4 weeks after your last shot.

I know there are many who believe in taking HCG throughout to maintain your natural test levels.

Question 2....so i im taking 500mg of test and HCG (@ Twice week 250iu). Is it additive? In other words will I have my natural test + the 500mg of test?

Also is there any chance of getting a woman pregnant while on test alone without HCG? and is it possible if your on test + HCG?

 

[Zyglamail]

here is what i think I know:

When taking synthetic test your ability to produce natural test stops.

So my first question is...at what point does it stop?

also I know that you will hit rock bottom if you do not take HCG at the end of a cycle and the synthetic test leaves your system and your natural test levels will take some time to come back to normal.

Without HCG, how long would that take?

Also I know that HCG kicks your natural test levels back into gear and should be taken 4 weeks after your last shot.

I know there are many who believe in taking HCG throughout to maintain your natural test levels.

Question 2....so i im taking 500mg of test and HCG (@ Twice week 250iu). Is it additive? In other words will I have my natural test + the 500mg of test?

Also is there any chance of getting a woman pregnant while on test alone without HCG? and is it possible if your on test + HCG?

These are all medical question that vary so much from person to person that no ones answer will likely apply to you.

When the body senses test in the system that is higher that it thinks is adequate natural production is reduced to bring the HPTA back in balance. How fast and just how much of a decrease in natural production varies from person to person.

Natural test and exo test will be additive but you have to remember that natural test doesnt have an ester so its immediately available for receptor binding. So if HCG causes test levels to go up and your running test c 2x a week lets say and that peaks 3 days after injection then take your HCG the day before you test c injection so your getting the benefit of natural spikes in between exo test doses.

HCG keeps the testes working throughout the cycle so at the end of the cycle as the exo test levels wane and your body reevaluates its axis the testes are ready to start kicking back in and joining the party as soon as needed. If HCG isnt used during the cycle the testes atrophy as their production stops and it can take a while for them to get back into the game.

Yes, people have gotten women pregnant while on cycle.

 

[nygiants]

ok so is this a valid statement?

"Taking HCG during a cycle can only help and not hurt."

if so what is the recommended dosage during and after?

 

[pbhardbody]

Taking HCG during cycle definitely helps to keep your natural test production going and to also prevent testicular atrophy (testes shrinkage).

My HRT clinic prescribes me to dose 250 ius sub q twice a week: 250 ius sub q two days before a test injection, and 250 ius sub q one day before a test injection.

This protocol is something that has been ran with patients, by a doc that is an HRT industry leader, and has proven to be more beneficial to patients than other protocols.

For PCT generally 2500 ius every 4th or 5th day, taken for no longer than 2 - 3 weeks. If you use HCG for too long or in too high a dose, it can function to desensitize the Leydig's cells to luteinizing hormone, hindering return to normal production.