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George i say u get rick collins in on it , and maybe even draw up a legal document stating that all the information you say will not be doctored in any way ,shape or form therefore if they do put a spin on it they will have a nice lawsuit, either way if you dont do isome other board will ,
 
George:

I think it's a great opportunity/good venue to discuss steroids in regard to quality of life issues. Legalization, tambien.

In Mexico, the average person has access to anabolics and many other medicines (antibiotics, etc.) without prescription. No need to to waste time/money to visit a doctor and obtain the same paperwork. Ironically, though, that same person is not as knowledagle as his counterpart in the US.

In essence, an educated American consumer cannot gain access to anabolics and is being deprived of what would be a right/privilege in a third world country. All thanks to dumb, outdated, and biased FDA policies.

Unfortunately, bodybuilders do not have an advocacy group needed to bring about reforms in steroid usage. No Tokyo lobbyists (yet). Doctors who understand the class of drugs are not enough. Maybe the subject could be tied to Ventura's perspective on anabolics. Or the ACLU.

Together, the points can be offered in an attempt to show how anabolics could be used safely and responsibly in the "land of the free." It's more than just bigger muscles. Think of rights. Think of the positive self-reinforcement which can be attributed a cycle.

No one would deprive a depressed person his Zoloft, huh?

It's late, and I'm rambling. Still, I agree with the majority sentiment about your appearing on the show. Bad news. (The potential publicity tied to an HBO special does not warrant the exposure. The subject will probably be treated as taboo. We're all familiar with the rippedmass situation, right?) You're basically too important to the cause and should not be made to experience undue risk. Don't be a martyr.

Let one of the board members do the buying. Let him be a soldier, not general, who has less to lose. Please stay in NYC.(Again, there's no risk in Mexico. I would not encourage any border-crossing, though.) Simply don't let the guy be a muscle-headed, ignorant Ronnie clone.


Please forward me the details. I'm a small guy harboring a big beef. Hey -- I don't even need a ticket. And I'm intent on keeping my purchases.
 
Well, I don't live in the USA but if I may have my saying, here it is:

I have to agree with 99% of the board members; I CAN'T BELIEVE this has been taken in consideration at all!

Can you EVER remember that something illegal has suddenly become legal because of a TV show? The general public's view on AAS is completely biased and the media is responsible for this indoctrination.

No matter how noble you're intentions are and how we all would like the unbiased truth to be told in an objective way, the general public can't handle it, the media won't tell it and the government won't have it!! If a TV station was to run a show with a positive view on AAS they would be mauled by the other media and the government.

The world is an unfair place to be and the media does'nt give a damn about what is right or wrong, they just want to make money.

For those of you who actually believe something good will come out of this, I have to say you are either very young and naive or just VERY naive of the world we live in today!

I can't even begin to imagine what steps the government would take after a TV show like that! You guys would have an even harder time getting hold of gear, staying out of the laws grasp and fighting off the prejudice bullshit from the ignorant general public!

Crom
 
the gringo said:
George:

I think it's a great opportunity/good venue to discuss steroids in regard to quality of life issues. Legalization, tambien.

In Mexico, the average person has access to anabolics and many other medicines (antibiotics, etc.) without prescription. No need to to waste time/money to visit a doctor and obtain the same paperwork. Ironically, though, that same person is not as knowledagle as his counterpart in the US.

In essence, an educated American consumer cannot gain access to anabolics and is being deprived of what would be a right/privilege in a third world country. All thanks to dumb, outdated, and biased FDA policies.

Unfortunately, bodybuilders do not have an advocacy group needed to bring about reforms in steroid usage. No Tokyo lobbyists (yet). Doctors who understand the class of drugs are not enough. Maybe the subject could be tied to Ventura's perspective on anabolics. Or the ACLU.

Together, the points can be offered in an attempt to show how anabolics could be used safely and responsibly in the "land of the free." It's more than just bigger muscles. Think of rights. Think of the positive self-reinforcement which can be attributed a cycle.

No one would deprive a depressed person his Zoloft, huh?

It's late, and I'm rambling. Still, I agree with the majority sentiment about your appearing on the show. Bad news. (The potential publicity tied to an HBO special does not warrant the exposure. The subject will probably be treated as taboo. We're all familiar with the rippedmass situation, right?) You're basically too important to the cause and should not be made to experience undue risk. Don't be a martyr.

Let one of the board members do the buying. Let him be a soldier, not general, who has less to lose. Please stay in NYC.(Again, there's no risk in Mexico. I would not encourage any border-crossing, though.) Simply don't let the guy be a muscle-headed, ignorant Ronnie clone.


Please forward me the details. I'm a small guy harboring a big beef. Hey -- I don't even need a ticket. And I'm intent on keeping my purchases.

Listen i dont know how this got started but jesse ventura didnt mention anabolic steroids once , i even asked my friends who live in minnesota , they also saythey never read or heard anything about ventrua mentioning roids
 
This is a very, very bad idea. It will bring mainstream attention to the boards. I strongly urge you not to go through with this, George.
 
There was a special on Dutch television this past Friday night on Steroid use. They did a segment on how easy it is to buy. Even though they blanked out the guy's face they showed him ordering on the internet and the web page was visible to ANYONE watching. I was speechless. Couldn't believe what I was seeing.

They also interviewed a few guys that are "on" but focused most of their attention on the doctors that had nothing good to say.
 
i say do it but do it smart bring it rick collins, draw up a legal document stating that any info you give will not be doctored or alterd in any way ,shape or form
 
I wish someone would make a documentary about how horrible it is that steroids are illegal and the media demonization id call it "The Iron Game"
 
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