strongman1989
New member
Hello i used havoc for 35 days now.
when i bought the product in the healthstore i was told that it had no side effects and was a weak product that wasent going to give me any good gains or any side effects at all, just a little more testosteron, but after like 15-20 days of use, i understood that something had to be wrong, my gains was to good+ my balls had shrink and i was so damn hungry! however,as i was told it was a safe product like bad ass mass+ jungle warefare, well atleast safer than anabolic steroids i bought it without thinking about a pct -.-
i used it like this
day 1-5 1 a day
day 5-10 2 a day
day 10-35 3 a day
and now i am without a PCT and really afraid that my body will use like 2 months to make my testosteron normal again and i will lose all my gains.
however, ive read that novedex XT can be used as a pct, i understand that it.s not as good as nolvadex, but its better than nothing right?
i got some additional questions
1 should i go right from 3 to 0 havoc a day? or slowly lower the dose from 3 to 2 and and then from 2 to 1 and from 0-1 over a 2 week period? to slowly lower the havoc in my body?
2 how much of my gains will i lose? my deadlift went from 480 to 520 my bench from 300 to 343 my squat from 400 to 435 and i am really afraid that i will lose those gains if the novedex cant do the job, when i did bad ass mass and jungle warefare the shutdown only lasted for like a few days but i had no gains at all. but this product seems alot stronger.
dont call me stupid or anything, i am new to these things, and trusted the person in the store. another thing that pisses me off is that i am sure they have sold it to alot of 14-16 year old boys who ruins there testo level completely. sorry my bad english and grammar, i hope someone can help
additional info
bw 260
height 6.0
never used anything any anabolic steroids
21 year old.
when i bought the product in the healthstore i was told that it had no side effects and was a weak product that wasent going to give me any good gains or any side effects at all, just a little more testosteron, but after like 15-20 days of use, i understood that something had to be wrong, my gains was to good+ my balls had shrink and i was so damn hungry! however,as i was told it was a safe product like bad ass mass+ jungle warefare, well atleast safer than anabolic steroids i bought it without thinking about a pct -.-
i used it like this
day 1-5 1 a day
day 5-10 2 a day
day 10-35 3 a day
and now i am without a PCT and really afraid that my body will use like 2 months to make my testosteron normal again and i will lose all my gains.
however, ive read that novedex XT can be used as a pct, i understand that it.s not as good as nolvadex, but its better than nothing right?
i got some additional questions
1 should i go right from 3 to 0 havoc a day? or slowly lower the dose from 3 to 2 and and then from 2 to 1 and from 0-1 over a 2 week period? to slowly lower the havoc in my body?
2 how much of my gains will i lose? my deadlift went from 480 to 520 my bench from 300 to 343 my squat from 400 to 435 and i am really afraid that i will lose those gains if the novedex cant do the job, when i did bad ass mass and jungle warefare the shutdown only lasted for like a few days but i had no gains at all. but this product seems alot stronger.
dont call me stupid or anything, i am new to these things, and trusted the person in the store. another thing that pisses me off is that i am sure they have sold it to alot of 14-16 year old boys who ruins there testo level completely. sorry my bad english and grammar, i hope someone can help

additional info
bw 260
height 6.0
never used anything any anabolic steroids
21 year old.