Have people changed...

[Crazier]

Crazier: you see. As long as you dont piss anybody or get invlved without a good reason in another country's problems you can feel safe. There's no reason Ben Laden would bomb Canada, actually I bet he doesnt know about a country called "Canada". I truly dont give a shit about Isreal-Palestinian conflict and I wish my country will remain outta there. This way we avoid so many troubles.

I hear you on this point my friend. I'd prefer we didn't interfere with the world's problems either. The problems we have, we've caused by putting our nose in places it shouldn't have been in the first place. I understand that, I recognize it, and I disagree with doing it 100%.

I was making a point, not bagging on your fine country.
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[manny78]

I hear you on this point my friend. I'd prefer we didn't interfere with the world's problems either. The problems we have, we've caused by putting our nose in places it shouldn't have been in the first place. I understand that, I recognize it, and I disagree with doing it 100%.

I was making a point, not bagging on your fine country.
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Peace on earth

 

[theoak01]

i dont understand how anyone can think like that,its a very selfish frame of mind,we should be trying to help other people,its a act of decency and morality then anything,if we just stayed out of it then the problem grows and grows and is one day on our door step and we are fucked,aswell innocent people die for no reason when those countires fight it is ridiculous to think that we should just shrug it off

 

[Crazier]

i dont understand how anyone can think like that,its a very selfish frame of mind,we should be trying to help other people,its a act of decency and morality then anything,if we just stayed out of it then the problem grows and grows and is one day on our door step and we are fucked,aswell innocent people die for no reason when those countires fight it is ridiculous to think that we should just shrug it off

Oak - If you've read my posts, I'm all for helping people.

However, this is dangerous. Not just to the U.S., Israel, Iran, Korea... but to the entire world.

These people have been fighting for hundred's of years oak. While I support helping the women in Afghi Land become free of their bullshit rules and lifestyle, if Israel and Paki's want to fight each other, as they have for the past few hundred years... why should we jump in now?

Are those 2 countries ever going to stop fighting?

The answer is yes. And the answer is closer today than it has been since you and I have been alive. They'll stop fighting a day a nuke lands on one of them. Until then, these people will continue to fight.

Afterall, they fight for land they consider holy to their religion. It's a belief so passionate, neither side will just say fuck it and move.
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[theoak01]

the reason we are helping now is because we are educated on the problem and we are becoming more proactiv in foriegn relations,and people talk about dropping nukes but no nuke big enough to effect the world will be dropped,and with nato and un we have the man power advantage and yes people will die but i am a firm believer that peace will be in the middle east before i die

 

[Crazier]

the reason we are helping now is because we are educated on the problem and we are becoming more proactiv in foriegn relations.

Bullshit. Our government's have known longer than you and I have been alive Oak. The violence and ugliness we hear about constantly now... it was happening last year, the year before that, and for a few hundred years before that. We got involved because 2 airplanes crashed into our buildings.

and people talk about dropping nukes but no nuke big enough to effect the world will be dropped,

Well, I'm glad you know that Newton. But... in 1942?? a bomb was dropped that effected the world. May have not killed everyone, but it ended a war... and saved many lives. Bombs are bigger and better today. 1 bomb, or 4 bombs systematically dropped on a country can eliminate that country, and cause dramatic change on the rest of the world.

and with nato and un we have the man power advantage

Oh... you mean the people that have been banned from entering countries that have nuclear capabilities? We know exactly shit about the warhead's they have made in the past 2 or 3 years.
A violation of a war treaty we made with them... and should have taken them out the very moment they denied the U.N. access.

and yes people will die but i am a firm believer that peace will be in the middle east before i die

Ahhh... that just must be the crack speaking.
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[theoak01]

crack? i dont think so,i do however respect your opinion but knowing the fighting is going on doesnt mean we are educated on a subject,yes nato and the un should have done something when denied entry,im not going to argue that but by us over in those countries peacekeeping and peacemaking it helps,take bosnia for example

 

[RobGuns]

Humans have a short memory! It is very, very sad! There are people that don't realize that the same hatred that caused Sept. 11 is displayed every time they call someone a Jew, a Wog, Nigger, Day-Go, Gook, and when they personally and sometimes physically attack someone because of their race, ethnicity, religion, or just because what they wear, their gender, their color or if they happen to walk into the wrong neighborhood!
Sept. 11 made me realize we all have one common enemy, our own ideologies and ourselves!
I cannot change the world, but I can live my life by treating everyone with love and respect, and hopefully influence some on the way!

Peace!

 

[Crazier]

Rob - No bullshit... sweet post my brother.

I wish the world would have the ideology you posted above.

54 posts... welcome to the board. Hope you stick around.
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[RobGuns]

Crazier - Thanks, I'll be around.

RG