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Has anyone tried this stuff?

hanselthecaretaker

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It's called Salvia divinorum, the most powerful hallucenogenic known. The actual compound that gives the effects is called salvinorin A. It is completely legal (only illegal in Australia, Denmark, and Finland) since it's chemical structure is unlike that of any controlled substance.

I'm curious if anyone's heard of it or tried it. I just bought some and am looking forward to finding out what it's like for myself.
 
It is from a plant, to be smoked, and I bought 1/4 ounce; the price is roughly similar to pot, but this stuff is crazy I guess. I've read up on it so I know what I'm doing when I do it. It is supposed to be about 10 times more potent than any form of acid/lsd out there. The effect only lasts about a half hour, but to the user, the more you smoke, the harder you trip. It is essential to have a sitter, someone watching you when you take in a big dose. It is primarily water based as well, hence the short half life; it is out of your system in a few hours.

It can also be eaten, yielding a much milder trip, and it is possible to extract the vapor and ingest it that way, but that is supposedly very dangerous, since the stuff is so potent. Even anything over 1 mg in vapor form could spell disaster for the user. This is why I got the leaf form, since it is safer, and virtually impossible to o.d. on.

I'll keep everyone updated when I get it.
 
10 times stronger than LSD? Sounds dangerous, be careful obr...
 
Anything like that would flip me out.

Too many things to think about right now.

What's wrong with just smoking weed and taking xanax ?

Everyone has to take things to the extreme :)
 
beastboy said:
I can't get over the drugs some of you people use. Damn.

yeah, no shit...I'm cruising to the A board to get away from all this crazy drug use :rolleyes:
 
Why you bors fuck yourselves up with this crap is beyond me.

Grab a girl instead
 
beastboy said:
Little different. And even with that...I can't get over the dosages some do.

Only different 'cause you have a higher opinion of AAS than rec drugs...essentially they are they same thing, illegal drugs that can have side effects. . Still, I can't believe a seeminngly intelligent obr would take this shit, esp, without knowing anything about it...are good ole' shrooms just not good enough anymore?
 
Man I hope Beefy Bull sees this thread, he is a master of this, he introduced me to it.

Shit is mind numbing, watched 3 friends do it, all individually, one friend inhaled, we waited till he was done, then another and so on, each time one of my friends inhaled and began to speak they were talking but it was not their voice, I did not try it. Their peaks lasted about 4 - 5 minutes.
 
havoc said:
each time one of my friends inhaled and began to speak they were talking but it was not their voice.

please explain - didn't sound like em, or diff personality?

why didn't you try it?

we have had threads on this topic... do a search or PM BeefyBull for more 411...
 
Becoming said:
please explain - didn't sound like em, or diff personality?

why didn't you try it?

we have had threads on this topic... do a search or PM BeefyBull for more 411...


It honestly did not sound like them, it was eerie, total distortion, they all knew who was around them but asked many question about their state of mind.
 
havoc said:
It honestly did not sound like them, it was eerie, total distortion, they all knew who was around them but asked many question about their state of mind.

got any especially interesting details? I think the threads I mentioned had some decent info... and the erowid site of course has some interesting stories...

personally i think i might try something like almanitas first...

For Hanselthecaretaker from a convo with beefy bull...
"I've tried Salvia Divinorum before. Salvia, when inhaled properly (thru a bong, holding it for 25+ seconds), produces a 1-2 minute "trip" that is probably as hardcore as any acid trip could ever be. You may not feel completely right for 3-4 minutes, but then you are 100% sober. To give you an idea how fucked up you can get if you do it properly: if you were driving, took a bomb ass Salvia hit and held it for 30 seconds then exhaled, you'd probably wreck your car for sure. It can give you intense visuals. For some reason, it doesnt work well in joints, blunts, and pipes. You have to have a bong or hookah of some sort.

The long-term effects of repeated salvia use are not known. Apparently, indians in Mexico have used them for thousands of years. The little research that has been done has indicated that it is fairly safe (it is a mint, but doesnt taste like others). Yes, you just crumble the dry leaves and smoke. Getting enough smoke and holding it for long enough are the 2 keys. Not enough smoke and you'll just feel weird, dont hold it for 25+ sec and you may not feel anything.

Do most people freak out... thats up in the air. First off, very few people will hit it correctly their first time. They'll take a tiny hit (since they dont know if it will make them cough) or hold it in like weed. You HAVE to let them know the correct way. I'd say that 99% of the people are not ready for their first good salvia hit. The visual distortions can be intense (text bouncing so hard on my computer I couldnt work WinAmp) and 20-30% of salvia users report feeling "force fields" or gravitational distortions. My friend felt this, but really no one else has. Salvia is like DXM, maybe 1 out of 3 people likes it enough to do it again.

Reportedly, you can keep smoking salvia over and over and get to different "plateaus". However, to get this high, you would have to have a sitter, b/c at some point you wouldnt be able to hold the bong. Salvia extract is just salvia that has been extracted using alcohol or something. The compound that gets you high, salvinorin A, is the most powerful natural psychoactive ever discovered by man. In fact, its so powerful, that if you licked a needle, stuck it in pure salv. A, and smoked or ate it, you would have fucking visions for sure!"
 
I only got the effects when I used a water pipe. Smoking it like a joint or in a bowl didn't do shit. I went to a world of crystals and ice, but I thought I was dead and I was freaking out. I hear the chewing method promotes a longer but more gentle trip than smoking it, I might try that sometime.
 
chaos mage said:
I only got the effects when I used a water pipe. Smoking it like a joint or in a bowl didn't do shit. I went to a world of crystals and ice, but I thought I was dead and I was freaking out. I hear the chewing method promotes a longer but more gentle trip than smoking it, I might try that sometime.

good info bro - thx...

I'd definitely like to hear how chewing affects the effects... lol
 
JerseyArt said:
Why you bors fuck yourselves up with this crap is beyond me.

Grab a girl instead


IMO girls do more drugs than guys in college anyway. They are always like "Do you have any coke/pot," etc?


Salvia is safer than any other drug when taken responsibly, because it isn't even classified as a controlled substance, and has been found to be non-addictive, and non-fatal in overdose. It's molecular structure consists of only carbon(C23), hydrogen(H28). and oxygen(O8). It isn't at all chemically similar to LSD. It is also a natural growing plant, a perennial in the mint family; LSD was manmade. Granted there hasn't been any long term studies on it, but it has been used for centuries by the Mazetec Indians of Mexico for spiritual healing/religious ceremonies.

I'll be the first to admit that there is more going on in the human brain than anyone can comprehend, but what's to say any of the other real drugs that people do are o.k. for you and completely understood?
 
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Becoming said:
got any especially interesting details? I think the threads I mentioned had some decent info... and the erowid site of course has some interesting stories...

personally i think i might try something like almanitas first...

For Hanselthecaretaker from a convo with beefy bull...
"I've tried Salvia Divinorum before. Salvia, when inhaled properly (thru a bong, holding it for 25+ seconds), produces a 1-2 minute "trip" that is probably as hardcore as any acid trip could ever be. You may not feel completely right for 3-4 minutes, but then you are 100% sober. To give you an idea how fucked up you can get if you do it properly: if you were driving, took a bomb ass Salvia hit and held it for 30 seconds then exhaled, you'd probably wreck your car for sure. It can give you intense visuals. For some reason, it doesnt work well in joints, blunts, and pipes. You have to have a bong or hookah of some sort.

The long-term effects of repeated salvia use are not known. Apparently, indians in Mexico have used them for thousands of years. The little research that has been done has indicated that it is fairly safe (it is a mint, but doesnt taste like others). Yes, you just crumble the dry leaves and smoke. Getting enough smoke and holding it for long enough are the 2 keys. Not enough smoke and you'll just feel weird, dont hold it for 25+ sec and you may not feel anything.

Do most people freak out... thats up in the air. First off, very few people will hit it correctly their first time. They'll take a tiny hit (since they dont know if it will make them cough) or hold it in like weed. You HAVE to let them know the correct way. I'd say that 99% of the people are not ready for their first good salvia hit. The visual distortions can be intense (text bouncing so hard on my computer I couldnt work WinAmp) and 20-30% of salvia users report feeling "force fields" or gravitational distortions. My friend felt this, but really no one else has. Salvia is like DXM, maybe 1 out of 3 people likes it enough to do it again.

Reportedly, you can keep smoking salvia over and over and get to different "plateaus". However, to get this high, you would have to have a sitter, b/c at some point you wouldnt be able to hold the bong. Salvia extract is just salvia that has been extracted using alcohol or something. The compound that gets you high, salvinorin A, is the most powerful natural psychoactive ever discovered by man. In fact, its so powerful, that if you licked a needle, stuck it in pure salv. A, and smoked or ate it, you would have fucking visions for sure!"


Just read this; thanks Becoming/Havoc/Beefy Bull.

Yes, while LSD can distort and bend your visual perception of reality(what you actually see), salvia is in fact a true hallucinogen. When taking a large enough dose, it can make you see and hear things that simply aren't there.
 
google it... it is legal
 
Becoming said:
google it... it is legal


One more thing......

Be sure you guys educate yourself on it before using it, especially in it's vapor form. It is extremely potent stuff, and while the drug itself isn't that dangerous, the effects it can produce on its users are supposedly unparalleled; so make sure you have someone sober with you at least the first time you try it, and take it in a safe place away from any sharp objects/open windows, flames, etc.

Use it responsibly.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Use it responsibly.

Dude no way - first time was in the bathroom at work.... its all good :)

(just kidding)
 
I was hoping to come back to this thread and it would have lots of replies. and it did.

sweet.

let me get some. I guess I'll have to buy a bong first though, my hookah won't cut it
 
ChewYxRage said:
I was hoping to come back to this thread and it would have lots of replies. and it did.

sweet.

let me get some. I guess I'll have to buy a bong first though, my hookah won't cut it

dude - just eat that shit - let me how it goes
 
ChewYxRage said:
I need to get off my ass.

I still need to get some amanitas as well.

get with the program bro - test that shit out for me...

my bro has a bachelor party coming up and I want to show with the right stuff for after :)
 
Becoming said:
get with the program bro - test that shit out for me...

my bro has a bachelor party coming up and I want to show with the right stuff for after :)


problem is I'm not at my apartment right now so I can't get shit like that shipped to me :(

late august though.
 
I've heard of it, never seen nor tried it. I would suggest erowid but you already know about that site. Maybe post or search the archives at bluelight.nu.
 
ChewYxRage said:
problem is I'm not at my apartment right now so I can't get shit like that shipped to me :(

late august though.

thats plenty of time bro...
 
I've got plenty of it sitting here, I've never tried making a tea out of it or chewing it, but I may soon. I dont do it often (hardly ever) b/c the high is somewhat odd. No one is ready for it the first time they get truly high off salvia though.

If you're going to buy some, find a site that sells a cheap half pound or pound. There are sites that sell it for $50/oz and there are sites that sell a kilo for $350. If I can find a link I'll post it.



From: http://www.wellcoolstuff.com/salvia.html

In many ways Salvia divinorum is in a class by itself. No other herb or drug is really very much like it. It is misleading to compare it to other psychoactive substances. It is a truly unique visionary herb.

Salvia contains a chemical substance called salvinorin A (often referred to just as salvinorin). Salvinorin is responsible for Salvia's mind-altering effects. It is not chemically related to any other psychoactive drug. Unlike most visionary compounds, it is not an alkaloid. Although it is not habit forming, pure salvinorin is extremely strong. Doses of only several hundred micrograms (millionths of a gram) will have an effect, and doses above 1 milligram (1/1000 of a gram) are too much for most people to handle comfortably. Because of its extreme potency, Salvinorin should never be used unless the dosage has been precisely measured with extremely accurate chemist's scales. Fortunately, Salvia leaf is hundreds of times weaker than pure salvinorin; therefore, Salvia leaf can be used much more safely than pure salvinorin.

Salvia leaf is physically quite safe. It is very gentle on the body. No one has ever died from a salvia overdose. Salvia is not a stimulant, it is not a sedative, it is not a narcotic, it is not a tranquilizer. Like many entheogens, it can induce visions, yet it is quite different from other entheogens. Dale Pendell, in his book Pharmako/Poeia, assigns Salvia divinorum to a unique pharmacological class, which he calls "existentia." This term alludes to the philosophical illumination salvia seems to shine on the nature of existence itself. Daniel Siebert has proposed the term enchantogen--a neologism, meaning "a substance that produces enchantment." No one knows how salvinorin works in the brain. We do know it works differently than any other known psychoactive substance.

SALVIA IS NOT A PARTY DRUG
This is important to understand. Salvia is not "fun" in the way that alcohol or Cannabis can be. If you try to party with Salvia you probably will not have a good experience.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
It's called Salvia divinorum, the most powerful hallucenogenic known

From http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_info3.shtml:
"Salvinorin A (the major active principal of the plant Salvia divinorum) is an extremely powerful consciousness altering compound. In fact it is the most potent naturally occurring hallucinogen thus far isolated."


CLICK THIS LINK TO READ OTHERS SALVIA EXPERIENCES:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Salvia_divinorum.shtml
 
http://salviasupply.com/video/

watch those two videos. hope you have broad band.

i have had nothing but bad experiences with salvia-and im a guy that used to regularly eat ten strips of acid combined with a few shroom caps-but others have had a fun time with it.
 
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