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Has anyone here tried LeptiGen yet?

A few people on our board, as well as bb.com, have. You might check those if you do not get an adequate response here.
 
I have a bottle but am saving it until I need it. I might go on a very low cal diet w/ leptigen before I go back to school next semester.
 
WizKid25 said:
never heard of it... nor can i find it anywhere on the web.

What is it?


It is a product intended to stimulated the hormone leptin. If you do not know what leptin is, read my article in M&M (issues 3,4,5)
 
Par Deus said:
A few people on our board, as well as bb.com, have. You might check those if you do not get an adequate response here.

Thanks Par - I had a look, got some info. Nice boards btw :)
 
but will it work as well as Bromocriptine in mimicking leptin and aiding in fat loss????Do they both work on the same level or is leptigen much weaker????
 
SonnyBlack said:
but will it work as well as Bromocriptine in mimicking leptin and aiding in fat loss????Do they both work on the same level or is leptigen much weaker????

It is not intended to mimick leptin, it is intended to increase it. On paper, it looks like it should be capable of keeping leptin levels up as high as if you were not dieting, which would make it better than Bromo, as leptin does some positive things that Bromo does not appear to do (LBM retention being one of the main ones).

Still waiting for more feedback before I can truly conclude that it works as well in the real world as on paper.
 
btw par,

what's up with the following leptin article?
u state at your site it will be up next friday...well it has been like that for the last 3 weeks.
any time frame for when it will be online?

es
 
eliteswimmer said:
btw par,

what's up with the following leptin article?
u state at your site it will be up next friday...well it has been like that for the last 3 weeks.
any time frame for when it will be online?

es

It will probably be a while. I just do not have the time or motivation at the moment.
 
Par Deus said:


It will probably be a while. I just do not have the time or motivation at the moment.

According to the ingrediants on Leptigen I find it hard to beleive this stuff can come compare to Bromocripton.

I'm currently 600 cals under my maintance using Bromocritpon and do not feel the need for refeed. Yeah I'm hungry but its nothing my willpower can't handle, also when my Meridia arrives I'll get a bit more extreme.

For those that care, this is my current cycle

Week 1 - Bromo 2.5mg, 600 cals under maint.
Week 2 - Bromo 2.5mg + Meridia 10mg, 800 cals under maint.
Week 3 - Dnp 600mg + Yohimburn at maintance cals
Week 4 - Bromo 2.5mg at maint cals
Week 5 - Same as Week 4 (might increase Bromo to 5.0mg)

I'm at 13-14% BF right now. Hoping to get to into the one digit area with this cycle. I've never been able to get under the weight I'm at right now with diet/exercise so I'm going all out this time.
 
Thinker82 said:


According to the ingrediants on Leptigen I find it hard to beleive this stuff can come compare to Bromocripton.

Do you have any actual reasons, based on scientific data and/or logic???
 
Par Deus said:


It will probably be a while. I just do not have the time or motivation at the moment.


Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but it's hard for me to throw down $65 or $150 on a "revolutionary" new product when I read that the inventor does not possess the motivation to write about it.

The concept sounds interesting but without more scientific data or responses from actual users I will have to continue ot wait.

I hope it works!
 
the creater of the product doesnt even have the "motivation" to right up on the leptin article...not that is a shitty salesman if you ask me
 
And with regards to "motivation", there is quite a difference between the "my time is pressed, as is my mind" type of motivational deficit, and the "I much rather would prefer to sit on my ass, eating Twinkies, as I don't give a shit" type of motivational lag.

good point here.

my thoughts too
es
 
I think, with all do respect, that it is you that is missing the point.

We all know that the weight loss industry is a multi-billion dollar cash generating machine.

Anyone that has a new, "revolutionary" product that actually works, could not possibly have anything better to do than work on its marketing and promotion.

Just my opinion of course
 
Par Deus said:
What can one do but laugh.....???


I realize I'm being controversial here, but I suppose one *could* explain the research and objective science, as well as pre/post tests of the product, to those who are the intended customers.
 
Thinker82 said:
According to the ingrediants on Leptigen I find it hard to beleive this stuff can come compare to Bromocripton.
I agree. Extraordinany claims require extraordinary evidence. Leptigen is purported to do something extraordinary, but there is no evidence to back that idea up. It's method of action is hardly even explained. Bromocriptine is shown to work in medical studies. It's method of action is explained adequately, if not well, by Lyle McDonald.

Therefore, it should definitely be hard to believe that Leptigen can compare to bromocriptine! The burden of truth is on Par Deus in this case.
 
Eh, I say give the guy a break. So he doesn't want to write about it right now. Yeah he developed the product, and in theory it should work, just like Yohimburn should work in theory, and the only way we know that it does is because a lot of people bought it, tried it, and posted results that were nothing short of excellent. All you can do is wait for everybody else to give it a shot. Until then, just wait til he gets the motivation to write about it. That doesn't mean he doesn't know his shit about the subject, it's just that....he's putting it off for now. Much like respected authors do for books. Ok that's my 2c. Blah.
 
smokinghawk said:

I realize I'm being controversial here, but I suppose one *could* explain the research and objective science, as well as pre/post tests of the product, to those who are the intended customers.

That is not even what we are talking about here -- An article on that will appear in the next issue of M&M. We are talking about the article before that, which is supposed to cover the fall in leptin when dieting.
 
plornive said:

Therefore, it should definitely be hard to believe that Leptigen can compare to bromocriptine! The burden of truth is on Par Deus in this case.

I agree completely on this.

And, it is not like I have said "It WILL WORK!!!!!" I say it looks great on paper, that the test results of the three people who tested it did not dissappoint, and that I am anxiously awaiting more feedback.
 
LaviathanX said:
just like Yohimburn should work in theory,

Actually, no scientific data has been presented to suggest it should work any better than a time-released oral, but that is neither here nor there......
 
Par Deus said:


I agree completely on this.

And, it is not like I have said "It WILL WORK!!!!!" I say it looks great on paper, that the test results of the three people who tested it did not dissappoint, and that I am anxiously awaiting more feedback.

I will volunteer to be a guinea pig. please send me as much product as you would like to along with detailed instructions on how you would like me to use it. If it works I will provide testimonials and agree to allow you to use my likeness in any advertising.

While this is said toungu-in-cheek I hope that the point that I am not craxy about paying to be a guinea pig comes through clearly.

Keep us posted.
 
bromo/leptigen

I don't know too much about either except that I've never seen a post detailing results--good or bad with bromo.

I ordered the Leptigen prototype figuring what the hell, can always return it but literally only made it through one serving. It taste like shit--yuk. I was gagging trying to get it down and ended up throwing it back up about 15 minutes later. The instructions say take inbetween meals--might not be so bad if you could take with a shake or something but tried to mix it with crystal light and it was just bad. I'm not usually such a wimp about these things, figure the thirty seconds of yuk can't be too bad but it was intolerable. I can take two tablespoons of the nastiest tasting flax oil, you know the kind that sort of taste like paint but not this stuff.

I have bromo too. Was all excited when I first started reading about it and figured by the time I got it from overseas I would have found enough info. I even ordered Lyle's book but too much theory and not enough experimental data. If anyone's got experience with bromo--please let me know.
 
Gambler said:


While this is said toungu-in-cheek I hope that the point that I am not craxy about paying to be a guinea pig comes through clearly.


I don't blame you -- That's why we have a money back guarantee.
 
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