Gyno w/Dbol

[Njuice]

Bro, I started my deca dbol cycle about a week ago, and i've been taking 20mg of novladex a day with it ... since yesterday my left nipple started feeling sore and i feel a lump undernearth it... i'm bumping up the dosage of my novladex but I have a feeling that the novla i have is fake ... its TAMOXATE made in Tijuana, they sell it at all the pharmacy's over there ... The reason I think its fake is cause the pills are alot thinner than the other novla I have bought in the past . but if it isn't fake when should i start noticing it working... i'm debating now weather to take the chance of the novla being real or just stop the dbol and continue on with the deca and use some winny at my week five ..
Any help???

 

[genarr3]

"i'm bumping up the dosage of my novladex"

It would be helpful for you to post exactly how much you're "bumping" your Nolvadex dose, and how much Dianabol and Deca you're taking.

Typically if you're experiencing gyno symptoms you'd start Nolvadex at 40mgs/ED.

 

[Njuice]

30mg of dbol a day spread throughout the day and 400 mg of deca a week, i was taking 20mg of novla and now i'm starting to take 40mg ... I have taken deca before and haven't experienced this problem so I dont think its from the dec

 

[Johnny Juicer]

Dude you need to do more research before you begin a cycle. Nolvadex only competes with other drugs for the receptor sites, PROVIRON prevents the gear from aromatizing in the first place. It might be too late already. Good luck!

 

[Njuice]

First time I used deca I used the Norandren 200 by BROVEL , now i'm using the Decanandrolen 200 by DENKAL... Bought both from vet shop in Mexico. where can i get BROMO from and what is the dosage? is it too late to get PROVIRON and start using it?

 

[Njuice]

Johnboy - Whats the dosage on the bromo and lets say its not from the deca, will it help if its from the dbol??? If so, How long will it take to start working?

 

[TraxZBT]

bromo will help supress prolactin. Start off low and slow since bromo can be pretty harsh stuff. After about a week at half a pill a day bump up the doseage. If side effects are still there, keep on going low till they subside..

 

[gainerxxl]

Proviron sucks at preventing Gyno, Nolva is the way to go, since it blocks the estrogen receptor (binds tighter to it, but doesn´t exert the estrogenic effect ). Proviron is not even proven to be an effective inhibitor of aromatase.

I´d suggest to discontinue the d-bol, that stuff is well known for it´s great gyno causing properties. Stop the d-bol, continue with the nolva and see what happens.

 

[Njuice]

Johnboy - Yeah I've been taking 20mg Novladex from day one of the dbol which was six days ago, its called Tamoxate and I bought it from a vet shop in Tijuana

 

[Japanese machine]

Proviron sucks at preventing Gyno, Nolva is the way to go, since it blocks the estrogen receptor (binds tighter to it, but doesn´t exert the estrogenic effect ). Proviron is not even proven to be an effective inhibitor of aromatase.

I´d suggest to discontinue the d-bol, that stuff is well known for it´s great gyno causing properties. Stop the d-bol, continue with the nolva and see what happens.

Nolva is an Estrogen antagonist, not a blocker, it merely just competes with the free Estrogen to get to the activation site.

You are thinking of the use clomid during a cycle; a weak estrogen; binds to the recepter but fails to stimulate breast tissue growth due to its weak potency.

 

[Njuice]

I´d suggest to discontinue the d-bol, that stuff is well known for it´s great gyno causing properties. Stop the d-bol, continue with the nolva and see what happens.

Your probably right, I should stop the dbol, but i'm trying to put on some size.. I'm going down to TJ tomorrow to pick up something, would it be ok to jump on something else or no? I got some winny so worse comes to worse i'm going to start that up at week five of the deca

 

[Njuice]

its the deca!!!!

I don't get it, why are you so convinced that it is the deca? Lets say it is the deca, do you think the winny would help out my gyno situation starting it on the fifth week of deca?

 

[mvmaxx]

30mg of dbol a day spread throughout the day and 400 mg of deca a week, i was taking 20mg of novla and now i'm starting to take 40mg ... I have taken deca before and haven't experienced this problem so I dont think its from the dec

Bro, I did the EXACT same cycle as you but with sust @ 500mg/week as well. I started getting gyno symptoms and started Nolvadex @ 20mg/ED. IT DIDN'T DO SHIT!! So I bumped it up to 40mg/ED and STOPPED THE DBOL and it subsided. I continued with the cycle with no problems then in week 6 to prove to myself that it was the dbol @ 30mg/ED that was the culprit, I started it again at the same dosage. Within 3 days it felt like someone was poking me with pins. I stopped the dbol and it went away again.

Note: I was also on Liquidex @1mg/ED the whole cycle.

I'm going to have to disagree with Johnboy on this one and say that the exact same thing happened to me and dbol was the culprit. I'd cut it out yesterday and get some more Nolvadex, FAST!! Start on it 40-60mg/ED. 20mg/ED doesn't do shit for the estrogen sensitive.

You can get some bromo but if you've taken decca before then I believe the problem to be dbol. Good luck bro.

 

[Njuice]

Bro, I did the EXACT same cycle as you but with sust @ 500mg/week as well. I started getting gyno symptoms and started Nolvadex @ 20mg/ED. IT DIDN'T DO SHIT!! So I bumped it up to 40mg/ED and STOPPED THE DBOL and it subsided. I continued with the cycle with no problems then in week 6 to prove to myself that it was the dbol @ 30mg/ED that was the culprit, I started it again at the same dosage. Within 3 days it felt like someone was poking me with pins. I stopped the dbol and it went away again.

Note: I was also on Liquidex @1mg/ED the whole cycle.

I'm going to have to disagree with Johnboy on this one and say that the exact same thing happened to me and dbol was the culprit. I'd cut it out yesterday and get some more Nolvadex, FAST!! Start on it 40-60mg/ED. 20mg/ED doesn't do shit for the estrogen sensitive.

You can get some bromo but if you've taken decca before then I believe the problem to be dbol. Good luck bro.

mvmaxx - yeah you might be right, i stopped taking the dbol and now i'm just using the deca at 400mg a week with 40mg of novla a day ... i'm just gonna throw in some winny on week 5 to finish up my cycle .. damn i was really excited about that dbol but oh well i guess i'll try something else

 

[mvmaxx]

mvmaxx - yeah you might be right, i stopped taking the dbol and now i'm just using the deca at 400mg a week with 40mg of novla a day ... i'm just gonna throw in some winny on week 5 to finish up my cycle .. damn i was really excited about that dbol but oh well i guess i'll try something else

I know what you mean and that's why I started up the dbol again during week 6 just to make SURE. It sucks cause my gains and strength increase was phenomenal. Let us know if it gets better now that you're off the dbol. You may want to get some bromo as johnboy suggested just for precautionary purposes. Besides, it will help you recover post cycle from the decca shutting you down.

 

[Njuice]

I know what you mean and that's why I started up the dbol again during week 6 just to make SURE. It sucks cause my gains and strength increase was phenomenal. Let us know if it gets better now that you're off the dbol. You may want to get some bromo as johnboy suggested just for precautionary purposes. Besides, it will help you recover post cycle from the decca shutting you down.

Good look, I think i'm going to get that bromo but its really expensive here, do sell it down in mexico? I'm trying to put on size, as you know the dbol wasn't working out so can you throw out any suggestions on what to take, something that worked well on you

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Either that or his TAMOXOATE is severely underdosed,which wouldn't be overly surprising if it's a generic comming out of Mex.Double your Nolva dose,and seriously consider doing what Johnboy has advised,so you have all your bases covered.