gyno reversal & summer cycle

[Avacado7]

Hello all,

I am new to the forum as far as posting. But elitefitness has been my foundry for information for the last 3 and half years.

My first anabolic steroid cycle was at age 22, sustanon + winny for 10 weeks straight to pct. Since then I have no 3 other cycles including a combination of different ester Tests and Trens.

more recently...

I have been off cycle since my last cycle, which started in February 2013 and ended in September 2013. I came off pretty strong with the help of Hcgenerate and Unleashed + Clomid PCT... around January 2014 I started developing some gyno. I used Letro for about 3 weeks at which it started to go away and then noticed it came back. So I researched and started the C-Bino reversal.. so far I have been on letro for 5 weeks I havent seen any major decrease in the gyno. The sensitivity has somewhat gone down but the lump is still there. I have Nolva on hand as well. I have been dieting and training hard, really dedicating myself to loose some body fat, as I have gain about 10 lbs since summer.

I want to start back on cycle for the summer but I am not sure how being on letro for so long, not seeing any progress, and knowing I have to run nolva to prevent rebound... how does this all play into starting my summer cycle.

my stats:
Age 25
Height: 5'10
Weight: 230lb
bf: 18%

Proposed summer cycle (second time running this combo):
Test Prop 100mg eod 12wks
Tren Ace 100mg eod 12wks
Mast Prop 100mg eod 12wks
Winny 50mg for 8 wks

I know you guys see a lot of poorly calculated cycles and guys that have not done their homework.. I admit that when I started at age 22 i was one of those guys.. but because of this website and my desire to grow in knowledge as a fellow athlete, I am looking for your advice and I will provide any honest information to help you help me.

Thank you,

Adam

 

[Avacado7]

Bump.. No one?

 

[smalljohn]

I bet no one wants to jump onto advices, knowing you already have some gyno problems.. Fix that first, before thinking about a new cycle. Health before muscle.

 

[Jbranken]

I bet no one wants to jump onto advices, knowing you already have some gyno problems.. Fix that first, before thinking about a new cycle. Health before muscle.

This. The fact that you want to cycle while trying to reverse gyno is a bit... Dumb. Wait on your cycle or suffer the consequences

 

[Avacado7]

Thank you for the replies. I was seeking this advice.

Should I continue with Letro at 2.5mg ED? I am half way through my 2nd bottle... I may also be over thinking it and not giving it time..I am anxious to see if Nolva will do anything different but do I have to wait until Letro makes the gyno go away before I move to Nolva.?

 

[Jbranken]

Thank you for the replies. I was seeking this advice.

Should I continue with Letro at 2.5mg ED? I am half way through my 2nd bottle... I may also be over thinking it and not giving it time..I am anxious to see if Nolva will do anything different but do I have to wait until Letro makes the gyno go away before I move to Nolva.?

Letro smashes estrogen by a whopping 98%. If it's not doing the job, I wouldn't expect nolva to do much more. They're normally started at the same time for a gyno killing protocol anyway. If you waited too long to attack the gyno, you may have created permanent breast tissue which is possibly why you aren't seeing a lot of progress

Continue with the 2.5mg letro and bring in nolva ASAP if you want to have any chance at getting rid of it. I would also try to get my hands on pharmaceutical stuff

 

[jackedandnatural]

Letro smashes estrogen by a whopping 98%. If it's not doing the job, I wouldn't expect nolva to do much more. They're normally started at the same time for a gyno killing protocol anyway. If you waited too long to attack the gyno, you may have created permanent breast tissue which is possibly why you aren't seeing a lot of progress

Continue with the 2.5mg letro and bring in nolva ASAP if you want to have any chance at getting rid of it. I would also try to get my hands on pharmaceutical stuff

Like what

Also, what's "waiting to long to attack the gyno?" How long do you have before it becomes permanent?

 

[Jbranken]

Like what

Also, what's "waiting to long to attack the gyno?" How long do you have before it becomes permanent?

Like pharma letro and nolva..

Once gyno symptoms start surfacing, it's important to start either upping your a.i. dosage or starting a letro protocol. This will ensure that less E is binding to the receptor and creating breast tissue. If you wait, that's exactly what starts happening. It's starts creating permanent breast tissue. This is serious shit that no one seems to research. Did you think steroids came without side effects or something? You act so surprised


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[jackedandnatural]

I'm not the OP bro, slow it down. I'm asking how long are you saying it takes for the gyno to become permanent breast tissue?

 

[Avacado7]

Thanks for the info JBraken. I have been using ar-r products. more info about my gyno... only my right nipple flares here and there my left is dormant and I do not feel anything hard underneath. Since I started the Letro the size and hardness of the lump has definitely decreased but it just seems to be at a stand still.. I also have a question regarding flaring.. could letro cause the lump to flare/sensitive due to it working on eliminating the tissue?

I also have some forma coming as well. I appreciate the input JBraken