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swol

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ok i just got test results back from my doc,
in short,
my test levels are very low
my liver is irretated.
my hdl cholesterol is ok
but my ldl cholesterol is high

i havent touched any AS for 6 months now.
and i have noticed for the past 4 months, i have a low sex drive, low energy, and i cant make any gains in the gym.

what can i do guys?
after my last cycle (sus250 and deca) i used clomid. 1 tab ed for 2 weeks.
i used milk thistle ed on cycle.

what can i do to get my cholesterol, test and liver back to normal>?

i work out 5 days a week, cardio 3 days a week.

thanks guys
swol
 
after my last cycle (sus250 and deca) i used clomid. 1 tab ed for 2 weeks.
Thats not enough clomid to jump start an RC car let alone someone who has run deca. If I were you, I would take 4 weeks of clomid at i tab ed and .5mg anastrozole ed. Go back to the doc 1 week after that and let us know how the test comes out.
 
Same problem here...Decca kiils my HPTA never again for this guy. How long after your last sus/decca shot did you start the clomid ? ?
 
i started the clomid the day after the last shot.
as for my doctor, he said he wants to run some more blood test, he is thinking it may even be hepititas B but doubts that.

then he said my test may be low cuz my GH may be low.

well to me thats good news. i could get a perscription for GH.
swol
 
i started the clomid the day after the last shot.
Ugh! So basically put your androgen levels did not even peak yet from the cycle and you took (ie watsed) the clomid. Clomid will be of little help when androgen levels are high and with deca having such a long half life you should have waited 3-4 weeks for blood concentrations to drop. I still stand by my above recomendations.
 
manny78 said:
how much tes-deca were you using ? Also 1 clomid ED after a deca cycle is not enough....


I m on a 600mg deca cycle right now and I was plannin on using one clomid a day as usual . how much do you think I should use
 
ya ZYG.
i fucked up.
but at least i learned from my mistake,
ill try taking the clomid now like you said but why the liquidex?
swol
oh ya and i was taking 400mgs deca and 750 sus, a week for 8 weeks.
 
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ill try taking the clomid now like you said but why the liquidex?
The clomid will block estrogen receptors and the ana will prevent the low test levels you have from aromatizing. Many report a much speedier recover when they use both. Also a certian someone used a similar method to father a child after he was told by fertility docs it wasnt gonna happen.
 
bump

why liquidex ? I was thinking hcg would be better the week after the cycle then on the fourth week start clen and clomid
 
Have your estradiol levels checked(they will more than likely be high).And re-run another clomid regimen(100mgs/day for 1 week,followed by 50mgs/day for a second week).Adding 1mg/day of arimidex would be highly beneficial to down regulate aromitase production via enzyme aromitase.

Run alpha-lipoic acid at 1 gram/day for 3-4 weeks,then have liver enzymes re-evaluated.They will be much lower.

Increase FIBER content(toss some into your protein shakes)for the next couple of months.This should lower cholesterol levels signifigantly...Also,avoid usage of any oral 17aa's as these affect both Hepatic irritativity as well as cholesterol production.
 
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ok this is good stuff.
so how this look.?
run liquidex at .5-1gram ed for 2 weeks
run clomid 100mgs ed for 1 week then 50mgs ed for week 2-4
take 1000mgs of alpa lipoic acid for 3 weeks
and take in some more fiber.

anything else?
and i just thought of something.
does any think i should ask my doc for a prescription of test?

swol
 
does any think i should ask my doc for a prescription of test?
If anything I would ask him for a prescription for arimidex tabs and clomid. :) Also, I think you should run the ana the whole time your on clomid, not just two weeks.
 
Calfzilla -
Try 300mg - day one, 100mg/day days 2-7, 50 mg/eod days 8 - 21. There are various ways people will tell you run clomid therapy, but with Deca definately wait 3 weeks after last shot before beginning. You might want to check out Iron Game's Clomid thread he posted a couple of days ago. It was an excellent read!
 
Alpine said:
Calfzilla -
Try 300mg - day one, 100mg/day days 2-7, 50 mg/eod days 8 - 21. There are various ways people will tell you run clomid therapy, but with Deca definately wait 3 weeks after last shot before beginning. You might want to check out Iron Game's Clomid thread he posted a couple of days ago. It was an excellent read!


thanks bro i ve been looking for that thread how do I get there ?
 
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