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Deus Ex Machina

Deus Ex Machina

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Which .45 do you think would be good for a shooter with medium-sized hands?

I was thinking of:

Colt 1911/Springfield 1911

Sig P220




gracias.
 
Deus Ex Machina said:
Which .45 do you think would be good for a shooter with medium-sized hands?
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The 1911 is good; the single-stack keeps the grip thickness down.

You can also play around with the flat or arched mainspring housing (it's only one pin more than a regular stripping) and long or short triggers (a bit more work; might want the shop to fit that). Gives you four chances to find a setup that suits you and the parts are dirt cheap compared to other makes.
 
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digger said:


The 1911 is good; the single-stack keeps the grip thickness down.

You can also play around with the flat or arched mainspring housing (it's only one pin more than a regular stripping) and long or short triggers (a bit more work; might want the shop to fit that). Gives you four chances to find a setup that suits you and the parts are dirt cheap compared to other makes.
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that's what i like about the 1911 is the single stack.

BTW - did you eviscerate my avatar?
 
I have a colt m1911 my hands are med, nice feel. my buds has a glock 45( not sure which model but its not the tiny one ) has a real nice feel.
 
Hey a quick question to you guys. How is it that people can survive a gun shot? I mean, doing some calculations, the typical 9mm has a muzzle energy of 400ft/lbs, which means the target gets hit with anywhere from 500-600joules of energy. WTF?? Whenever I go paintballing, and I get hit, it sting like a mother! and then I think, "man, this is like, maybe a little bit more than a joule of energy, how the hell can someone survive 600 times that?"
 
F117A Active Stealth said:
Hey a quick question to you guys. How is it that people can survive a gun shot? I mean, doing some calculations, the typical 9mm has a muzzle energy of 400ft/lbs, which means the target gets hit with anywhere from 500-600joules of energy. WTF?? Whenever I go paintballing, and I get hit, it sting like a mother! and then I think, "man, this is like, maybe a little bit more than a joule of energy, how the hell can someone survive 600 times that?"
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the sheer will to live
the resilience of the human body
non-vitals hit
 
I have huge hands... I can hold a basketball between my thumb and ringfinger

also I like firepower. what would be my kind of handgun
 
Robert Jan said:
I have huge hands... I can hold a basketball between my thumb and ringfinger

also I like firepower. what would be my kind of handgun
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smith & weston 44 mag revolver 6" barrell


RADAR
 
I dont have big hands and I had this dilemna a year ago when I bought my 1911. Basically I had three options:

- Colt 1991

- Springfield TRP

- Kimber TLE II

Finally picked the last one with night sights and a trigger job. Bang for the buck, it's hard to beat...
 
F117A Active Stealth said:
Hey a quick question to you guys. How is it that people can survive a gun shot? (...) I think, "man, this is like, maybe a little bit more than a joule of energy, how the hell can someone survive 600 times that?"
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What DeM said... also, turn it around; why does punching a hole in someone kill them? A lot depends on where you do it, but basically it's either mechanical destruction of the nervous system or loss of blood, aka shock. Keep the blood from leaking, patch the sucking chest wound, and you've got a fighting chance. After that comes the long-term fight against infection and so forth, which doesn't apply to a discussion of "stopping power."

With a full-metal jacket 9mm, you very well may NOT dump the entire load of energy on the target -- you may get a "darning needle" through-and-through wound, and waste 80% of that energy on the wall behind it. (Or an innocent bystander... I hate reckless punks as much as anyone else does.)

A big slow .45 round is a better stopper than a sharp-barking 9mm because there's a much better chance the guy you're trying to stop* will get the full effect. That's also why a hollowpoint is MORALLY superior to a round-nose; shooting someone once -- and stopping the fight -- actually gives them a better chance of surviving than shooting them nine times (because they didn't quit after the first one).

*Not kill, not murder -- we're talking about the legal and moral need to stop someone who is committing murder. I don't joke around on that subject. Nor do I take fiendish glee in it. Dropping virtual orbiting anvils is one thing; dropping a real hammer on a real criminal is another.
 
digger said:


What DeM said... also, turn it around; why does punching a hole in someone kill them? A lot depends on where you do it, but basically it's either mechanical destruction of the nervous system or loss of blood, aka shock. Keep the blood from leaking, patch the sucking chest wound, and you've got a fighting chance. After that comes the long-term fight against infection and so forth, which doesn't apply to a discussion of "stopping power."

With a full-metal jacket 9mm, you very well may NOT dump the entire load of energy on the target -- you may get a "darning needle" through-and-through wound, and waste 80% of that energy on the wall behind it. (Or an innocent bystander... I hate reckless punks as much as anyone else does.)

A big slow .45 round is a better stopper than a sharp-barking 9mm because there's a much better chance the guy you're trying to stop* will get the full effect. That's also why a hollowpoint is MORALLY superior to a round-nose; shooting someone once -- and stopping the fight -- actually gives them a better chance of surviving than shooting them nine times (because they didn't quit after the first one).

*Not kill, not murder -- we're talking about the legal and moral need to stop someone who is committing murder. I don't joke around on that subject. Nor do I take fiendish glee in it. Dropping virtual orbiting anvils is one thing; dropping a real hammer on a real criminal is another.
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The main problem with the .45ACP, is its lack of penetration. When we tested some calibers/guns two years ago, the .45 could barely go through 12" while the 9mm did 16.1". Not a big problem if you live in Florida but a bigg issue where winter is hard and people waer their big jacket and tons of clothing.

Perfect caliber on this planet ? 10mm !
 
Ever read those stories about people that were shot in the head and couldn't even feel the bullet because of the placement of it? Wierd...
 
What DeM said... also, turn it around; why does punching a hole in someone kill them? A lot depends on where you do it, but basically it's either mechanical destruction of the nervous system or loss of blood, aka shock. Keep the blood from leaking, patch the sucking chest wound, and you've got a fighting chance. After that comes the long-term fight against infection and so forth, which doesn't apply to a discussion of "stopping power."

With a full-metal jacket 9mm, you very well may NOT dump the entire load of energy on the target -- you may get a "darning needle" through-and-through wound, and waste 80% of that energy on the wall behind it. (Or an innocent bystander... I hate reckless punks as much as anyone else does.)

A big slow .45 round is a better stopper than a sharp-barking 9mm because there's a much better chance the guy you're trying to stop* will get the full effect. That's also why a hollowpoint is MORALLY superior to a round-nose; shooting someone once -- and stopping the fight -- actually gives them a better chance of surviving than shooting them nine times (because they didn't quit after the first one).
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Wow thanks for that explanation, I always figured it had to be something like that. Like if a 9mm goes thru the tissue it doesn't disperse all the energy, when a .45 not only has TWICE the energy but almost twice the circumference as well, it's definitely gonna stop the target, for good :)
 
Deus Ex Machina said:



I have a Beretta 92FS, I don't really like it much.
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Really, What don't you like about it?

I have one and I have medium to large hands and it fits me well.
 
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