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Gulf Stream and the gov't KNEW the FEMA trailers were contaminated w/formaldehyde

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These trailers have killed who knows how many people and GW Bush and his FEMA people knew they were contaminated

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=116&sid=1436541

By EILEEN SULLIVAN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Companies that make recreational vehicles should not be blamed for high levels of formaldehyde in FEMA trailers, according to a report by House Republicans.

The partisan analysis instead points the finger at the federal government for not having standards for safe levels of formaldehyde before Hurricane Katrina victims lived in the trailers.

"Blaming trailer manufacturers for doing what was expected of them would be misplaced and ineffective," according to the report by the Republican staff on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

The committee is holding a hearing Wednesday when the heads of four major travel trailer manufacturers will testify.

The report also faults the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Environmental Protection Agency for controversial testing that led to misleading results about the formaldehyde exposure. Last year, scientists tested hundreds of FEMA trailers and found potentially dangerous levels of formaldehyde.

Prolonged exposure to formaldehyde can lead to breathing problems and is also believed to cause cancer. Complaints began popping up shortly after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, with residents of FEMA-issued trailers reporting frequent headaches, nosebleeds and other ailments. FEMA did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

"Trailer manufacturers were pushed to their limits and did their best to help ill-prepared and disjointed government agencies respond to the disaster," said Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., the ranking republican on the House Oversight committee.

But Tony Buzbee, a lawyer representing hundreds of current and former trailer occupants who are suing dozens of trailer manufacturers, said it's laughable that the manufacturers would have no responsibility for the levels of formaldehyde in the trailers they made. "When anyone purchases a product, they rely upon the knowledge of the individual that manufactured it," Buzbee said. "You can't make a product that makes people sick."

But there is no government standard for the amount of formaldehyde in travel trailers. The government sets standards for indoor air quality for materials used to build mobile homes, but not for travel trailers. If the government were to set a standard for materials in travel trailers, the order would have to come from Congress.

Until experts determine a safer level of the preservative, FEMA has set its own standard at 16 parts formaldehyde per billion parts of air. Tests last year found an average of 77 parts formaldehyde per billion parts of air in FEMA trailers.

"The lack of such a standard leaves manufacturers like Gulf Stream _ which understandably have no special training or expertise regarding formaldehyde levels and their effects _ with no clear and definitive guidance on this issue," Gulf Stream Coach chairman Jim Shea said in written testimony prepared for Wednesday's hearing.

Gulf Stream Coach, Inc. received the bulk of the FEMA trailer contracts after Katrina. Shea said every FEMA trailer was inspected at the factory, and FEMA inspectors were at the manufacturing plant while the trailers were being made.

Since Hurricane Katrina, Gulf Stream's lobbying costs have more than doubled.

In 2003 and 2004, there was no lobbying activity on behalf of Gulf Stream for trailer-related issues. In 2005, Gulf Stream paid less than $10,000 to lobby the House and administration on trailer contracts. But it paid $50,000 in 2006, $120,000 in 2007, and $60,000 in the first quarter of 2008 to lobby the House and administration on trailer issues, according to Senate records.

(Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)
 
i got the flu the other day geo bush is responsible!!!@#@!#!@#@!#
yes i'm fully sure that bush knew about the contaminated trailers, and i bet he even personally contaminated them...of course, beforehand he blew up the wtc, wrecked the levies, and designed that bridge in minnesota to collapse.
nigga please
 
Bino said:
i got the flu the other day geo bush is responsible!!!@#@!#!@#@!#
yes i'm fully sure that bush knew about the contaminated trailers, and i bet he even personally contaminated them...of course, beforehand he blew up the wtc, wrecked the levies, and designed that bridge in minnesota to collapse.
nigga please



Yes, I had a low tire the other day and Bush knew it..... F@#*#g BUSH that mother f'er kill him!...
 
bw1 said:
Yes, I had a low tire the other day and Bush knew it..... F@#*#g BUSH that mother f'er kill him!...

Bush gave me swamp-ass!
 
Ok, so better that we should have sent nothing? Fabric tents that would have lasted for maybe a week? Or perhaps we should have let them all die of exposure?

They needed trailers, lots of them, far more than any company had in sitting in inventory, and they needed them fast. I think the most accurate statement in that article was, "Trailer manufacturers were pushed to their limits and did their best to help ill-prepared and disjointed government agencies respond to the disaster."

Probably in their rush to fill the orders as quickly as humanly possible (they knew human lives were on the line) they might have neglected to consider formaldehyde levels. That's unfortunate, but it's a damned site more than the survivors of southeast Asian tsunamis got when 100,000 of their people got wiped out, or those poor bastards in Myanmar, or China (post earthquake). Our gov. might suck sometimes, but when it comes to handing out free shit in disaster situations, we stack up pretty well against the competition, 'cause they don't give their people a god damned thing.
 
Who cares? Think of the money we saved in welfare checks and the murders that won't happen in the cities the refugees would have been shipped to.
 
gjohnson5 said:
These trailers have killed who knows how many people and GW Bush and his FEMA people knew they were contaminated

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=116&sid=1436541

By EILEEN SULLIVAN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Companies that make recreational vehicles should not be blamed for high levels of formaldehyde in FEMA trailers, according to a report by House Republicans.

The partisan analysis instead points the finger at the federal government for not having standards for safe levels of formaldehyde before Hurricane Katrina victims lived in the trailers.

"Blaming trailer manufacturers for doing what was expected of them would be misplaced and ineffective," according to the report by the Republican staff on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

The committee is holding a hearing Wednesday when the heads of four major travel trailer manufacturers will testify.

The report also faults the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Environmental Protection Agency for controversial testing that led to misleading results about the formaldehyde exposure. Last year, scientists tested hundreds of FEMA trailers and found potentially dangerous levels of formaldehyde.

Prolonged exposure to formaldehyde can lead to breathing problems and is also believed to cause cancer. Complaints began popping up shortly after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, with residents of FEMA-issued trailers reporting frequent headaches, nosebleeds and other ailments. FEMA did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

"Trailer manufacturers were pushed to their limits and did their best to help ill-prepared and disjointed government agencies respond to the disaster," said Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., the ranking republican on the House Oversight committee.

But Tony Buzbee, a lawyer representing hundreds of current and former trailer occupants who are suing dozens of trailer manufacturers, said it's laughable that the manufacturers would have no responsibility for the levels of formaldehyde in the trailers they made. "When anyone purchases a product, they rely upon the knowledge of the individual that manufactured it," Buzbee said. "You can't make a product that makes people sick."

But there is no government standard for the amount of formaldehyde in travel trailers. The government sets standards for indoor air quality for materials used to build mobile homes, but not for travel trailers. If the government were to set a standard for materials in travel trailers, the order would have to come from Congress.

Until experts determine a safer level of the preservative, FEMA has set its own standard at 16 parts formaldehyde per billion parts of air. Tests last year found an average of 77 parts formaldehyde per billion parts of air in FEMA trailers.

"The lack of such a standard leaves manufacturers like Gulf Stream _ which understandably have no special training or expertise regarding formaldehyde levels and their effects _ with no clear and definitive guidance on this issue," Gulf Stream Coach chairman Jim Shea said in written testimony prepared for Wednesday's hearing.

Gulf Stream Coach, Inc. received the bulk of the FEMA trailer contracts after Katrina. Shea said every FEMA trailer was inspected at the factory, and FEMA inspectors were at the manufacturing plant while the trailers were being made.

Since Hurricane Katrina, Gulf Stream's lobbying costs have more than doubled.

In 2003 and 2004, there was no lobbying activity on behalf of Gulf Stream for trailer-related issues. In 2005, Gulf Stream paid less than $10,000 to lobby the House and administration on trailer contracts. But it paid $50,000 in 2006, $120,000 in 2007, and $60,000 in the first quarter of 2008 to lobby the House and administration on trailer issues, according to Senate records.

(Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)

So let's see who all is at fault:

President, CDC, Congress, FEMA, EPA... who else?

Here's the take away-message (you may want to write this one down): The Government Fucks-Up Everything It Touches. Republicans Do It. Democrats Do It. If we had a third party, they'd fuck it up too.

Now say that three times in a row. Now live your life based upon that principle.

The only hope for less fuck-ups in government is less government. People can't seem to get that concept, but think of it like this: If you're at a restaurant where the food literally tastes like shit, are you going to complain about the portions being too small as well?
 
jnevin said:
Who cares? Think of the money we saved in welfare checks and the murders that won't happen in the cities the refugees would have been shipped to.
pwned.

Gjohnson, nowhere in that article does it mention Bush.

By the way, FEMA was started by Carter...a democrat.

More government = bad.
 
GW doesn't care about anybody apparently


http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/toxic_fema_trailers

The Sierra Club conducted independent tests on 600 FEMA trailers and mobile homes that were being used along the Gulf Coast. In some extreme cases, formaldehyde levels in the structures were 70 times higher than what is considered safe. Of the FEMA trailers and mobile homes tested by the Sierra Club, only 23 had formaldehyde levels that “were at less than twice the acceptable long-term exposure limit” of 0.008 ppm, and only 9 where below that standard. The majority of the FEMA trailers had levels of .56 ppm, while the formaldehyde detected in mobile homes was also above the threshold, in some cases as high as 0.1 ppm.

The finding that the FEMA mobile homes were just as dangerous as the toxic FEMA trailers was startling. The FEMA mobile homes, which are larger and are meant for long-term use, where considered safer than the FEMA trailers. While FEMA had stopped using the toxic trailers in the summer of 2007, use of mobile homes was still standard practice for the agency. In fact, just weeks prior to the Sierra Club revelations, FEMA had provided mobile homes to the victims of the 2007 California wildfires.
 
What is the percentage of people in NO who were on gov't assistance before Katrina?
 
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