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Guess what? A first cycle thread

Omegasox

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Not planning on running this until October'ish, but want to get everything down in advance. I had considered doing another PH cycle, but with the wide variety of reviews of products, and since gear would probably end up cheaper, I decided it would be a waste of time. Might as well take the plunge.

Age: 28
Ht: 6'2
Wt: 210
BF%: ~15
Years training: 7; 3.5 consistently up until now

Currently on a prohormone cycle, after that I will be running PCT and trying to cut some weight before October, hoping to get down to around 10-12%. During this period I also hope to take care of some puberescent gyno with letro/nolva. Dropping bf% should help as well. Running Letro .5mg ED to start, up to 1.25 the first week. Will sustain that dose if results appear, if not, will raise to 2.5 if I can handle the sides. Will then taper and start nolva; it's going to be very touch and go until I find how my body reacts to the two.

After the nolva, thinking about running Test E for 8-10 weeks, 2x/wk 200mg. Going to have Adex on hand, but a lot depends on how my gyno responds to the letro/nolva. I don't know if I want to start it right with the Test at .25mg EOD to be safe, or wait and see what happens and start it around week 3 if necessary. Also will have the normal supps to go with it (Multi-V, Milk Thistle, etc.).

I know hCG is recommended, and the PP PCT Stack looks phenomenal, but I'll have a bunch of Nolva left over. Can I get away with just Nolva for PCT?

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated. I want my first cycle to be on point.
 
Omegasox said:
Not planning on running this until October'ish, but want to get everything down in advance. I had considered doing another PH cycle, but with the wide variety of reviews of products, and since gear would probably end up cheaper, I decided it would be a waste of time. Might as well take the plunge.

Age: 28
Ht: 6'2
Wt: 210
BF%: ~15
Years training: 7; 3.5 consistently up until now

Currently on a prohormone cycle, after that I will be running PCT and trying to cut some weight before October, hoping to get down to around 10-12%. During this period I also hope to take care of some puberescent gyno with letro/nolva. Dropping bf% should help as well. Running Letro .5mg ED to start, up to 1.25 the first week. Will sustain that dose if results appear, if not, will raise to 2.5 if I can handle the sides. Will then taper and start nolva; it's going to be very touch and go until I find how my body reacts to the two.

After the nolva, thinking about running Test E for 8-10 weeks, 2x/wk 200mg. Going to have Adex on hand, but a lot depends on how my gyno responds to the letro/nolva. I don't know if I want to start it right with the Test at .25mg EOD to be safe, or wait and see what happens and start it around week 3 if necessary. Also will have the normal supps to go with it (Multi-V, Milk Thistle, etc.).

I know hCG is recommended, and the PP PCT Stack looks phenomenal, but I'll have a bunch of Nolva left over. Can I get away with just Nolva for PCT?

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated. I want my first cycle to be on point.

Welcome. You've got a lot of time to research before you do anything, that is a very good thing.

Test E for first cycle. 500mg for 10 weeks. Have a-dex on hand.

Personally, I wouldn't use nolva only for pct. There are better options.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Welcome. You've got a lot of time to research before you do anything, that is a very good thing.

Test E for first cycle. 500mg for 10 weeks. Have a-dex on hand.

Personally, I wouldn't use nolva only for pct. There are better options.


+1 good post here. personally id wait on the a-dex, as it will reduce your gains... find out how you react to test before you try to fix something that might not happen. id also strongly recommend h.c.g.
 
If you are using letro there is no need to have a-dex on hand. Having said that, your letro doses appear quite high. As I am sure you have read, letro has quite a long acting time span and is very good at what it does. I would take 1/4 tab eod or 1/2 tab eod. There is definitely no need to use it daily at those doses you suggested unless you have gyno (in which case you should use it during and post cycle). If you do start noticing gyno symptoms then step it up and take nolva for a little bit (40mgs a day for a week) then continue with the letro.

If it's your first cycle a simple 250mgs weekly or every 5 days of test (enanthate, cyp or sust) with 30-40mgs of dbol a day will be a solid cycle.
 
Cardinal Slin said:
If you are using letro there is no need to have a-dex on hand. Having said that, your letro doses appear quite high. As I am sure you have read, letro has quite a long acting time span and is very good at what it does. I would take 1/4 tab eod or 1/2 tab eod. There is definitely no need to use it daily at those doses you suggested unless you have gyno (in which case you should use it during and post cycle). If you do start noticing gyno symptoms then step it up and take nolva for a little bit (40mgs a day for a week) then continue with the letro.

If it's your first cycle a simple 250mgs weekly or every 5 days of test (enanthate, cyp or sust) with 30-40mgs of dbol a day will be a solid cycle.

Yeah, the letro is being used before I run the Test cycle to try and rid myself of gyno stemming from puberty. I have the Adex on hand in case the letro takes care of my current gyno, but the cycle induces it again.

I don't plan on running this for a couple of months, just trying to get everything in order ahead of time so I'm ready come October.

I've noticed that the board is kind of split between a 250mg or a 500mg dosing of Test for a first cycle.

Thank you for the replies so far, bros! K around.
 
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