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Anyone seen any reports?
Damn right. Show me its is what it claims to because as of right now I'm not buying it. There seems to be a lot of lovers of GTP but I'm not one of them. I think thier test E is complete shit. Either highly underdosed or straight up fake. I am VERY dissappointed in the quality of it. Just to let you guys know, I have been told the exact same thing by a bunch of other people on the boards. Some openly said it on the boards and others kept it private (PMs and K messages). Their winny was decent though.tommy2tone said:top notch isn't showing me the test results. i can send u oil in a bottle and say its top notch deca and have people say the samething. what i'm asking is if there's any lab results showing how close it is to the label dosage like satch had done for the EQ. i have no doubt that its a quality product, but would like to see the results if a test was conducted.
Why bear the pain?PolfaJelfa said:I like their Test-E but alot of times it is unbearable to shoot.!

PolfaJelfa said:I like their Test-E but alot of times it is unbearable to shoot.!
tommy2tone said:top notch isn't showing me the test results. i can send u oil in a bottle and say its top notch deca and have people say the samething. what i'm asking is if there's any lab results showing how close it is to the label dosage like satch had done for the EQ. i have no doubt that its a quality product, but would like to see the results if a test was conducted.
Beachbum1546 said:Damn right. Show me its is what it claims to because as of right now I'm not buying it. There seems to be a lot of lovers of GTP but I'm not one of them. I think thier test E is complete shit. Either highly underdosed or straight up fake. I am VERY dissappointed in the quality of it. Just to let you guys know, I have been told the exact same thing by a bunch of other people on the boards. Some openly said it on the boards and others kept it private (PMs and K messages). Their winny was decent though.
PolfaJelfa said:Yes im sure bro..ive had more than 10 bottles ...3 were total crap. Just facts
PolfaJelfa said:I did go thru them. Im determined and needed them.
I can tell you the problem in them. Crystalization...and improperly made.
Ive been doing this for a while. I could car less about lab tests. The point is they hurt and make things swell pluss give a fever in many cases. When talking to GTP was told to " add more oil" I did so and it helped alot. However the way they are presented is not worthy of use. I would use only when mixed with other oil/gear. Again the strenght of the product is not in question. Its the quality that is!
Mr.X said:hey bro, you want the test results - go pay $50 to SRCS and get them, as I don't know if any have been posted on EF
Mr. X why nobody here saying you have alterior motives to protect GT reputation by all means? Sorry but thats exactly how it looks like.PolfaJelfa said:Bashing them? Alterior Motive? Pretty funny.
I'm using it right now and like I have said in another thread, I could have made better gains off of a cycle of creatine and better pumps from NO2.Mr.X said:if you think it's complete shit, get it tested - I highly doubt it's "shit" as I've used the product before
boops said:fact is you cant take what either people say as being the "gold standard" cuz some have financial ties to certain things, best thing to do is an independent test YOURSELF and see what happens...its the only sure way to tell...Tommy said it above when he talked about sending someone a bottle of oil and saying well such and such said its great.....find out for yourself, PERIOD!
PolfaJelfa said:Bashing them? Alterior Motive? Pretty funny.
I still support them. I just dont want people to have to go thru what i did. I say their stuff should be dilluted. I have not said i will never use them.
And also that was not a bad batch. It was 3 seperate batches years appart.
That is not bashing a product but rather telling the truth.
GTP= Good Product but very painfull sometimes. That is my oppinion from my own eperience period.
PolfaJelfa said:Tell your source it is not just a bad batch. These batches are common. In my experience 7 of 10 were awesome. 3 were crippling.
Beachbum1546 said:I'm using it right now and like I have said in another thread, I could have made better gains off of a cycle of creatine and better pumps from NO2.
No sex drive
No strength gains (minor gains but the same as training without AAS)
No size gains
Nuts are the same size
nothing...
Retabolil2 said:Mr. X why nobody here saying you have alterior motives to protect GT reputation by all means? Sorry but thats exactly how it looks like.
Mr.X said:re-read my post reta...I know you're from russia, but, in simple terms, I'm saying PJ does, not just 'anyone'. That's really besides the point.
I am just offended to see people bash a product to 'help' someone else. I personally support companies and products on EF, but outright bashing without much of motivation/proof is a bit unfounded. Out of the thousands who use the product, we have 4-5 bad reviews on this thread. Therefore, I suggest they get it tested if they think it's 'bunk', as it's a fair way to go.
PolfaJelfa said:Tell your source it is not just a bad batch. These batches are common. In my experience 7 of 10 were awesome. 3 were crippling.
Not bashing the gear. Its good a good deal for their prices. However their quality standards frankly suck. Feel free to do a search and you will se my posts of when my shoulder was swolen and cherry red for 7 days. Or the time i couldnt walk for 4 days. I litteraly took 3 days of from work. As i wasnt able to work!
If using it i would try it, if its smooth and doesent hurt in a day your set. If it does next time dilute with 50% oil. Should help ENORMOUSLY and save you from what alot of bros including myself went thru.
PolfaJelfa said:No just Test Enan 400.
First used about a year ago. Got a bad one a few months later. And then a few months ( 2-3 ) after that. And last bad one was less than 2 months ago. Feel free to do a search and see.
PolfaJelfa said:Yes im sure bro..seen more than 10 bottles ...3 were total crap. Good strenght...but literally could not walk...had bad fever....and arm was swolen up to the point watter was starting to form inside....and no use of arm at all for 7 days...i posted this be4.
The good ones ive had i was very happy with.
PolfaJelfa said:Damn your crazy man. Biceps injections..lmfao...You got to be brave for that.
PolfaJelfa said:This problem can be easily solved by dilluting the gear with oil. It becomes good stuff. I was a stupid ass and ran all of it and trained with a fever after my legs allowed me to walk.
If this ever happens to me again, i know that the gear is crystalizing and needs to be mixed with more OIL, & possibly bb.
PolfaJelfa said:1. Reason Cheap Access.
maldorf said:I also heard that you can bake it in the oven and evaporate off some of the bb? The idea was that the BB content of their product is too high. Quadsweep tried that and said it worked great. Wish I had thought of it.
PolfaJelfa said:You mean BA? Its not an isue of too much BA at least in my cases. I thought it was the BA at first too...but it was not. Very little ba in there. GTP said that...and i was able to verify. I believe it crystalizes inside and does not want to spread around. Thus creates huge red patches and warmth+ swelling on the skin/tissue. It feels inside almost like an itch but not quite. It literaly feels like little miniature razor blades are in there. Thus im assuming crustalization. Ussualy after 3-7 days it starts to absorb and you can literally feel it working if you are on nothing else.
Im no scientist...all i can do is asume it is crystalization...definatelly ba in my case.
everyone has his own experience, I dont blame Indy for 'bashing' BD stuffMr.X said:re-read my post reta...I know you're from russia, but, in simple terms, I'm saying PJ does, not just 'anyone'. That's really besides the point.
I am just offended to see people bash a product to 'help' someone else. I personally support companies and products on EF, but outright bashing without much of motivation/proof is a bit unfounded. Out of the thousands who use the product, we have 4-5 bad reviews on this thread. Therefore, I suggest they get it tested if they think it's 'bunk', as it's a fair way to go.
Retabolil2 said:everyone has his own experience, I dont blame Indy for 'bashing' BD stuffAnd its pretty much understandble he is "helping" someone else
Why is that allowed to him but doesnt allowed to someone else?
Alo we havent seen ANY lab test results except the ones posted by the man himself. and they are still confusing. Why is that? Its really strange that no one had GT stuff tested at SRCS except Satch. Maybe this board is just not for independent test results?
Retabolil2 said:everyone has his own experience, I dont blame Indy for 'bashing' BD stuffAnd its pretty much understandable he is "helping" someone else
Why is that allowed to him but doesnt allowed to someone else?
Also we havent seen ANY lab test results except the ones posted by the man himself. and they are still confusing. Why is that? Its really strange that no one had GT stuff tested at SRCS except Satch. Maybe this board is just not for independent test results?
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