Growth Hormone nasal spray

[geoboy]

anyone try this VPX Intragrowth? it suppossedly contains same GH releasing peptide that is classed as a drug in Germany, and has studies showing huge increase in plasma GH (not measured by IGF-1). comments?

http://www.vpxsports.com/product_intragrowth.htm

 

[conan69]

Nope

 

[HGH man--Chargeback]

Don't believe it. Why would somebody pay $800 to $1200 a month to get on HGH,think about it. And your going to get HGH for $100 a month snorting up your nose. I don't think so.

 

[geoboy]

Don't believe it. Why would somebody pay $800 to $1200 a month to get on HGH,think about it. And your going to get HGH for $100 a month snorting up your nose. I don't think so.

Because there's so much crap with nice ad-copy out there, it's easy to become cynical and dismiss everything. I have no ax to grind either way, but...

1) it's not GH, it's GH-relasing peptide (sort of like a clomid for GH), and like I said, it's supposedly a drug in germany.

2) there are supposedly studies to back up increase in serum GH (not merely igf-1)

3) anybody try it?

 

[Miracle Man]

If it worked, everyone including myself would be on it. If it's over the counter, it does not work. The only way to icrease your IGF-1 levels is through injecting Hgh. End of story....

 

[Sigmund Roid]

It works, look at the article below. However, they claim that it works better intranasally, but it also works well orally so why bother. There are 3 reasons why their product is probably still a rip-off:
1. it is not the real thing, just saline water
2. it is underdosed.
3. it is illegal to sell a prescription medicine, which is even still in the trial state.

In the article, look at the control group, they are the healthy ones:



J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2001 Jul;86(7):3279-83 Related Articles, Links


Growth hormone-releasing peptide-2 stimulates GH secretion in GH-deficient patients with mutated GH-releasing hormone receptor.

Gondo RG, Aguiar-Oliveira MH, Hayashida CY, Toledo SP, Abelin N, Levine MA, Bowers CY, Souza AH, Pereira RM, Santos NL, Salvatori R.

Endocrine-Genetics Unit/LIM 25, Department of Medicine, University of Sao Paulo School of Medicine, 01246-903 Sao Paulo, Brazil. [email protected]

GH-releasing peptides (GHRPs) are synthetic peptides that bind to specific receptors and thereby stimulate the secretion of pituitary GH. In vivo it is uncertain whether these peptides act directly on somatotroph cells or indirectly via release of GHRH from the hypothalamus. In this study we compared the pituitary hormone response to GHRP-2 in 11 individuals with isolated GH deficiency (GHD) due to a homozygous mutation of the GHRH receptor (GHRH-R) gene and in 8 normal unrelated controls. Basal serum GH levels were lower in the GHD group compared with controls [0.11 +/- 0.11 (range, <0.04 to 0.38) vs. 0.59 +/- 0.76 microg/L (range, 0.04-2.12 microg/L); P = 0.052]. After GHRP-2 administration there was a 4.5-fold increase in serum GH relative to baseline values in the GHD group (0.49 +/- 0.41 vs. 0.11 +/- 0.11 microg/L; P = 0.002), which was significantly less than the 79-fold increase in the control group (46.8 +/- 17.6 vs. 0.59 +/- 0.76 microg/L; P = 0.008). Basal and post-GHRP-2 serum levels of ACTH, cortisol, and PRL were similar in both groups. Basal levels of serum TSH were significantly higher in the GHD group than in the control group (3.23 +/- 2.21 vs. 1.37 +/- 0.34 microIU/mL; P = 0.003). TSH levels in both groups did not change after GHRP-2 administration. These results suggest that an intact GHRH signaling system is not an absolute requirement for GHRP-2 action on GH secretion and that GHRP-2 has a GHRH-independent effect on pituitary somatotroph cells.

 

[jasonstrong]

One word SCAM! Holy cow...the number of "legal" scams out there amaze me!!

 

[geoboy]

Jason:
look at the study in the post above yours. doesn't look like a 'scam' to me. if it's what it's supposed to be, it should work. VPX has too much else going on to try to perpetrate a scam. too much to lose.

sigmund:
>>3 reasons why their product is probably still a rip-off:
>1. it is not the real thing, just saline water
>2. it is underdosed.
>3. it is illegal to sell a prescription medicine, which is even still in >the trial state.

1) & 2) mutually exclusive, and what do you base this conclusion on? any lab tests done?

3) it's not in trial stage in USA (as far as i know). but it is by script in germany.

 

[Singleton]

If it's over the counter, it does not work.

99.9% of the time. Creatine worked, though. GHB worked. I remember seeing ads for GHB and I didn't try it cause I thought it was bullshit. Now it's illegal. I regret not trying it.

 

[HGH man--Chargeback]

From the country that brought us "Hitler" now brings you HGH in a nasal spray. LOL ,Duh sounds good to me!

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

From the country that brought us "Hitler" now brings you HGH in a nasal spray. LOL ,Duh sounds good to me!

That country also brought the world Johann Sebastian Bach, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Albert Einstein, and Saurkraut.

 

[Johnny Cut]

there is legislature to make pro-hormones illegal, they must not work either

 

[jasonstrong]

Jason:
look at the study in the post above yours. doesn't look like a 'scam' to me. if it's what it's supposed to be, it should work. VPX has too much else going on to try to perpetrate a scam. too much to lose.

sigmund:
>>3 reasons why their product is probably still a rip-off:
>1. it is not the real thing, just saline water
>2. it is underdosed.
>3. it is illegal to sell a prescription medicine, which is even still in >the trial state.

1) & 2) mutually exclusive, and what do you base this conclusion on? any lab tests done?

3) it's not in trial stage in USA (as far as i know). but it is by script in germany.

That's cool bro...you go ahead and buy it...I'll save my dough.
Any supplement potency use is at risk in this unregulated market...who's policing who....?