Growth Hormone And Clonidine

[will b huge]

Do the experienced GH people always use CLONIDINE----I can see the tremendous positive reasons to do so-----but once you start taking CLONIDINE---do you have to continue it forever or can you ween off of it????


Any experience/knowledge/opinions very happily welcomed..

Thanks again.....

 

[Outtlaw]

Why would you want to take that if you dont have to? What are these "positive reasons" you're referring to?

 

[kbrkbr]

Never heard of it.

 

[will b huge]

Why would you want to take that if you dont have to? What are these "positive reasons" you're referring to?

If somebody is taking GH and also testosterone, then they are getting increased water retention from the increase in ADH, and also increased sodium retention from elevated testosterone. Aromatization of testosterone increases with age. So if you take Arimidex, you block the conversion of testosterone to estrogen. This then helps to reduce water retention due to elevated estrogen. If you also take clonidine, this stops elevated ADH, which stops the active water retention.

Growth hormone, however, causes A.D.H. (Anti-Diuretic Hormone) to go up. ADH is a very potent coronary constrictor which also constricts veins. It is produced starting in the hypothalamus. The nerve endings of certain neurons in the hypothalamus reach into the posterior pituitary, and ADH and oxicitocin come from the posterior pituitary. ADH can go up to 20 times normal levels with fear, or anger, and stress. This can cause coronary constriction within minutes, and this can cause a massive heart attack.

Growth hormone makes ADH go up, and as a direct effect of this, water retention goes up, which causes higher blood pressure. ADH is dose dependent of GH, which is why you have to drop the dose if blood pressure goes up too high, until your circulatory system adjusts to handle it. This is the only bad side effect of an otherwise very good dose of growth hormone.

"Clonidine" is the safest high blood pressure medicine. It causes no side effects, and no impotency of any kind. It is indicated if you have high blood pressure due to ADH.


These are some studies done by Dr. Speers (the GH Guru)


Also, I saw some posts on here from many years ago, that said the constrictors opening passage ways for more blood, etc...with high blood pressure meds have positive assistance with AAS/HGH.........

Just looking for anyones knowledge?????

 

[Outtlaw]

It's not worth it IMO. Unless you have problems with high blood pressure, etc. I would do without. But Im not one for adding in more drugs unless it's really necesary. Most people dont use the amount of gh to cause serious sides that would warrant something like that anyways. If you're taking a lot of gh, then its probably worth thinking about. But for the average gh user, I wouldnt bother with it. Just my opinion.