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The Red Dragon
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Green tea is typically non-caloric
macrophage69alpha
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interesting read
Obes Res. 2005 Jun;13(6):982-90. Related Articles, Links
Green tea polyphenol epigallocatechin gallate inhibits adipogenesis and induces apoptosis in 3T3-L1 adipocytes.
Lin J, Della-Fera MA, Baile CA.
444 Edgar L. Rhodes Center for Animal and Dairy Science, University of Georgia, Athens, GA 30602-2771, USA.
OBJECTIVE: Green tea catechins have been shown to promote loss of body fat and to inhibit growth of many cancer cell types by inducing apoptosis. The objective of this study was to determine whether epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), the primary green tea catechin, could act directly on adipocytes to inhibit adipogenesis and induce apoptosis. RESEARCH METHODS AND PROCEDURES: Mouse 3T3-L1 preadipocytes and mature adipocytes were used. To test the effect of EGCG on viability, cells were incubated for 3, 6, 12, or 24 hours with 0, 50, 100, or 200 microM EGCG. Viability was quantitated by MTS assay. To determine the effect of EGCG on apoptosis, adipocytes were incubated for 24 hours with 0 to 200 microM EGCG, then stained with annexin V and propidium iodide and analyzed by laser scanning cytometry. Both preadipocytes and adipocytes were also analyzed for apoptosis by terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase dUTP nick-end labeling assay. To determine the effect of EGCG on adipogenesis, maturing preadipocytes were incubated during the 6-day induction period with 0 to 200 microM EGCG, then stained with Oil-Red-O and analyzed for lipid content. RESULTS: EGCG had no effect on either viability or apoptosis of preconfluent preadipocytes. EGCG also did not affect viability of mature adipocytes; however, EGCG increased apoptosis in mature adipocytes, as demonstrated by both laser scanning cytometry and terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase dUTP nick-end labeling assays. Furthermore, EGCG dose-dependently inhibited lipid accumulation in maturing preadipocytes. DISCUSSION: These results demonstrate that EGCG can act directly to inhibit differentiation of preadipocytes and to induce apoptosis of mature adipocytes and, thus, could be an important adjunct in the treatment of obesity.
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Obes Res. 2005 Jun;13(6):982-90. Related Articles, Links
Green tea polyphenol epigallocatechin gallate inhibits adipogenesis and induces apoptosis in 3T3-L1 adipocytes.
Lin J, Della-Fera MA, Baile CA.
444 Edgar L. Rhodes Center for Animal and Dairy Science, University of Georgia, Athens, GA 30602-2771, USA.
OBJECTIVE: Green tea catechins have been shown to promote loss of body fat and to inhibit growth of many cancer cell types by inducing apoptosis. The objective of this study was to determine whether epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), the primary green tea catechin, could act directly on adipocytes to inhibit adipogenesis and induce apoptosis. RESEARCH METHODS AND PROCEDURES: Mouse 3T3-L1 preadipocytes and mature adipocytes were used. To test the effect of EGCG on viability, cells were incubated for 3, 6, 12, or 24 hours with 0, 50, 100, or 200 microM EGCG. Viability was quantitated by MTS assay. To determine the effect of EGCG on apoptosis, adipocytes were incubated for 24 hours with 0 to 200 microM EGCG, then stained with annexin V and propidium iodide and analyzed by laser scanning cytometry. Both preadipocytes and adipocytes were also analyzed for apoptosis by terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase dUTP nick-end labeling assay. To determine the effect of EGCG on adipogenesis, maturing preadipocytes were incubated during the 6-day induction period with 0 to 200 microM EGCG, then stained with Oil-Red-O and analyzed for lipid content. RESULTS: EGCG had no effect on either viability or apoptosis of preconfluent preadipocytes. EGCG also did not affect viability of mature adipocytes; however, EGCG increased apoptosis in mature adipocytes, as demonstrated by both laser scanning cytometry and terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase dUTP nick-end labeling assays. Furthermore, EGCG dose-dependently inhibited lipid accumulation in maturing preadipocytes. DISCUSSION: These results demonstrate that EGCG can act directly to inhibit differentiation of preadipocytes and to induce apoptosis of mature adipocytes and, thus, could be an important adjunct in the treatment of obesity.
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I just drink 2-3... ok more like 5 cups of it daily!
Lifterforlife
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swatdoc said:
Ditto here. Been drinking it long before it became "mainstream" news. Went to Australia in 95, got started on it there.
macrophage69alpha
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only issues with commercial tea preparations is the wide variance in EGCG content, many like lipton only have 60mg/serving (6oz), though fine teas and whole teas can have up to 200mg/cup (though usually less)
Lifterforlife
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macrophage69alpha said:
Excellent point. This is why I buy mine from the health food store, normally in bulk. Yogi and Traditional Medicinals come to mind, as well as Stash which ironically Wal Mart now carries. Used to have to order this through catalogs. These folks have been doing it for a long time. The new "players" are in it to make a buck off of news.
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Lifterforlife said:
you mean the direct from CHINA outlet?
surprised they dont have the wide selection of teas and rice of any store
(btw- thats what passes for humor this morning)
Lifterforlife
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macrophage69alpha said:you mean the direct from CHINA outlet?
surprised they dont have the wide selection of teas and rice of any store
(btw- thats what passes for humor this morning)
Yep, the one and same.
I believe they will soon be carrying these far east items.MASSIVEMONSTER
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how many green tea mg`s needed a day in tablet form?
macrophage69alpha
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MASSIVEMONSTER said:
depends on purpose, for fat loss reccomend around 1000mg, though some goes as high as 2000mg of EGCG per day, though you can use less.
Lifterforlife
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RamRom said:
Great idea. Do it all the time. For a cheap fat burner, add a couple cider vinegar caps.
macrophage69alpha
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deco said:
do some research before you pick a tea, a lot of them are so processed that they have low amounts of polys.
for example lipton green tea has bout 60mg of EGCG per cup
XtremeAdventures
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I like taking the extract and also drink it in normal form. I order from peets.com. Another good reference source is http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/greentea.html
I buy the stuff from Target. I'm sure it's highly processed.macrophage69alpha said:
Any recommendations for good green tea brands?
macrophage69alpha
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not really... thats something that would require a decent amount of research..
though do expect that high quality and tested teas grown in low flouride soil will be coming to market (the demand is there)
though do expect that high quality and tested teas grown in low flouride soil will be coming to market (the demand is there)
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Ghede said:
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