Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I am starting to clean up my diet for summer. I have been eating 5 clean meals every 3 hrs or so. I also have been chugging skim milk throughout the day, evening and throughout the night. I am thinking this a decent, inexpensive, low carb, low sugar, high protein drink. Other opinions welcome.
Got Milk?
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lostinfitness
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what are your goals stats etc
cityhick
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12%.... fuck dude drink up. I love fat free milk. I dont know about the hole soft thing. I started a thread awhile back. Still gotta count those Cals though. 90 per cup. And a cup to me is like rinsing my mouth after ANPB. check it out.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445665&highlight=Milk
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445665&highlight=Milk
fiction agent
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I was always under the impression that milk makes you look soft because of the slight bloat it gives.
reelbig004
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i would not recommend milk while cutting. Simply put, there are more ideal protein sources. In this game there are bad, good, and excellent choices that can be made. Milk is not optimal.
jmt24
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i dont think there is whey in skilm milk. whey is usually the bi product of when milk is made. skim milk is also going to raise your insulin levels which will transport gylcogen and amino acids to your fats cells for storage unless your are eating something with enough fat to slow gastric emptying.
SgtSlaughter
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Personally i'm against all dairy while cutting.
I supplement with Calcium Citrate to compensate...
although on a "cheating occasion" i'll probably have a glass or some cheese, ect.
I supplement with Calcium Citrate to compensate...
although on a "cheating occasion" i'll probably have a glass or some cheese, ect.
cityhick
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What this will always come down to is what Works for you. Sarge and JMT are some straight up ballers but thier body reacts differently then mine. So try out dairy and then try cutting without. See what you like more. I never notice being soft and always feel good with Milk. Some dont.
SgtSlaughter
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^^ that's about the coolest thing you've ever said. It's almost sig qualitycityhick said:
Much appreciate brutha! You're gettin' there broski... keep that diet tight!
On the rest of City's Post: Agreed... individual experimentation is key. It's the ONLY way one finds out what works best for them, and them alone.
Hey guys,
I have alot of dairy throghout the day.
1 glass skim milk w/ whey
1 glass skim milk w/ cerial
1 glass skim milk w/ ANP b4 bed.
So thats atleast 3 glasses. and i dont make 8 oz cups either.
Maybe there is a bloat, but i cant tell its DEF from the milk. I dont look as defined when cutting, but even cutting i use MILK. I refuse to cut it out of my diet. Milk does a body good and unless in in competition mode i doubt milk would make any real difference.
BUT as CITY, JMT, and SARGE said, everyone's body is different and everyone is going for different goals.
BUT, AND I DO MEAN BUT, Your rest of your diet needs to be onpoiint before you need to wory if milk is going to hurt/help ya.
People that are training to get low bf >9 will have to start worrying to remove milk from the diet.
I say go for it. Get your diet on point.
And unless you are like Sarge(he supplements the calcium), the calcium in dairy actually help loose stubborn body fat around the midsection.
P.S. I hope this glass is w/ Whey or another protein source because it is still high in sugar.
GOT MILK?
I have alot of dairy throghout the day.
1 glass skim milk w/ whey
1 glass skim milk w/ cerial
1 glass skim milk w/ ANP b4 bed.
So thats atleast 3 glasses. and i dont make 8 oz cups either.
Maybe there is a bloat, but i cant tell its DEF from the milk. I dont look as defined when cutting, but even cutting i use MILK. I refuse to cut it out of my diet. Milk does a body good and unless in in competition mode i doubt milk would make any real difference.
BUT as CITY, JMT, and SARGE said, everyone's body is different and everyone is going for different goals.
BUT, AND I DO MEAN BUT, Your rest of your diet needs to be onpoiint before you need to wory if milk is going to hurt/help ya.
People that are training to get low bf >9 will have to start worrying to remove milk from the diet.
I say go for it. Get your diet on point.
And unless you are like Sarge(he supplements the calcium), the calcium in dairy actually help loose stubborn body fat around the midsection.
P.S. I hope this glass is w/ Whey or another protein source because it is still high in sugar.
GOT MILK?
SgtSlaughter
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I had a bowl of high protein ceral this morning with skim 
lol... first time in a loooong time, felt good to indulge!
lol... first time in a loooong time, felt good to indulge!
i really dont know how you guys can do it w/o milk i love it. I have never had a broken (major) bone and i say its because of the milk. AND if you knew some of the hard falls/crashes/hits ive gone through u would be shocked lol
BUT SARGE EAT UP!! lol
My cereal is Kashi Go Lean Crunch 13g protein. + 8g from milk + 24 from whey. Preety decent meal.
BUT SARGE EAT UP!! lol
My cereal is Kashi Go Lean Crunch 13g protein. + 8g from milk + 24 from whey. Preety decent meal.
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Aries13
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WHen im cutting i have NO dairy what so ever in my diet. EVen skim milk has lots of sugar in it... which is where the carbs come from. Also, the protein content is not as high per serving size... you would have to drink like 3cups to get enough(1c=90cal,8gP,13gSugar/carbs). And yes, it can make you look flat.
** Oh how I miss a nice glass of milk...now that I think about it. Its been 11weeks of no dairy
** Oh how I miss a nice glass of milk...now that I think about it. Its been 11weeks of no dairy
reelbig004
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Aries13 said:WHen im cutting i have NO dairy what so ever in my diet. EVen skim milk has lots of sugar in it... which is where the carbs come from. Also, the protein content is not as high per serving size... you would have to drink like 3cups to get enough(1c=90cal,8gP,13gSugar/carbs). And yes, it can make you look flat.
** Oh how I miss a nice glass of milk...now that I think about it. Its been 11weeks of no dairy
Good post. Bottom line the ratios suck. Too much sugar and not enough benefit. There is no need to prove that milk makes you look soft. You're hearing it from real people who have seen the effects of milk versus no milk in their diet. Enough said. Ask any of the other serious diet gurus and they will tell you that milk is complete bull shit.
reelbig004 said:
WHOAA, i wouldnt say its complete bullshit, i wouldnt say its a miracle drink either, Im Saying in my DIET(s) Cutting & Bulking i drink Milk. I dont just have a glass of milk, but mixed w/ Whey.
I think Dairy is one of those "everyone is different" items. BUT i wouldnt go and say MILK is bullshit.
BUT im also not saying that if your in competition and need to be below 5%, then ya cutting milk might not be so bad, but if your not in competition or serious cutting i would go for it.
reelbig004
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cityhick said:
City Hick were talking about the pros and cons of milk. Is calling me a shithead necessary?
I don't think so you faggot.
I guess if I wanted to drink milk I could look like you...FAT!
Protobuilder
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LoL boys, boys. Settle down. I'm on the pro-milk side. Correct me if I'm wrong. Lactose has minimal effect on insulin levels (i.e., won't jack up your blood sugar levels), and milk's combination of whey + caseine is damn near impossible to beat, especially after a workout. Lyle McD would back me up here.
cityhick
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reelbig004 said:
hahahaha. Alright your right its all that milk that is making me "soft". I should have told my Defensive line coach....sorry I want to have a six pack for girls to look at I am going to have to loose some wieght. I never claimed to be ripped. Shit everyone knows that you are "reelbig!" You made a dumb remark.
Let me know what "guru" said that. And for every post that said it made them look soft there was one that didnt.
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reelbig004
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cityhick said:
Your the one that started talking shit for absolutely no reason. We were simply discussing our thoughts on milk and whether we agreed with its use when cutting. Just opinions from trial and error. I'm not saying I'm right, just offering my thoughts. Sorry for the smart ass comeback. Everyone has there own views.
pintoca
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it depends on why are you cutting and where are you right now.
competition? probably leave dairy out, puffy look
losing weight? you could have a glass here and there, it won't kill you, as long as it's accounted for in your daily caloric intake and in your macros. Then again, when I plateau, that is one of the first things I check.
competition? probably leave dairy out, puffy look
losing weight? you could have a glass here and there, it won't kill you, as long as it's accounted for in your daily caloric intake and in your macros. Then again, when I plateau, that is one of the first things I check.
WannaBeBig72
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Why would milk make you look puffy? You would only get that puffy look from retaining water right? And milk has no sodium. So then what is it?
SgtSlaughter
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^^^ It's not about sodium or water retention.WannaBeBig72 said:
Everyone's body is different and reacts in different ways to some foods.
If dairy makes you "puffy" and you don't like it, don't drink it. If you do... drink it. Simple as that.
cityhick
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Alright not drinking milk to get to cometition level is completly understable. But even if some people say it makes them look soft there has to be a reason! I want proof that when certain people say milk makes them look soft. There has to be scientific reason just like there is for everything else in this game. There has to be some explanation or I still wont bieleve it.
You could have this reaction if you had an allergy ...WannaBeBig72 said:
just some info...
http://www.healingwell.com/library/allergies/kaemmerer2.asp
One scenario ...You may not even know an allergy (even a minor one) exists but when you remove the dairy, the 'bloating' or 'puffiness' made dissipate and so you think, eh milk makes me look soft…
cityhick
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*Bunny* said:
Now you have a point there. But do you really think that every person that says that they look soft on milk has an alergy? Do you? If milk makes someone look soft JUST BECASUE ITS MILK. Then someone who is lean take this mission up. Take milk outta your diet...lets say 2 weeks. Take picture. Then drink milk for 2 weeks with the same diet Cals/protien/fat. AND SHOW ME THE DIFFERENCE. I honestly think that its just in your heads.
reelbig004
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I think the bottom line here is two fold
1. Everyone's body reacts differently to various nutrients
2. There are more optimal protein, carb, fat sources than milk
It's not a bad food source..there's just better to use as substitutes.
It all comes down to your goals at the time.
I have spoken my final words on the subject. Good day gentlemen.
1. Everyone's body reacts differently to various nutrients
2. There are more optimal protein, carb, fat sources than milk
It's not a bad food source..there's just better to use as substitutes.
It all comes down to your goals at the time.
I have spoken my final words on the subject. Good day gentlemen.
