Got arrested need advice....

[c3bodybuilding]

Hey brothers, I got arrested yesterday for knocking a guys baseball cap off at the court house. I was there to get the number for the highway patrol and some paperwork. To get the number I asked a lady who takes care of tickets. Since her window was clear, I went to ask her for the number real quick before she called anyone's number. It took about 5 seconds but this biker tough guy type comes up to me and is yelling at me, calling me a line cutter, etc. The front desk lady told the guy "it's ok, he just wanted a number" But sadly, she did not see the rest. I've been arrested before in 2004 for simple battery (got into a fight with a guy who offered my sister coke and harassed her sexually.), so I know now to keep my cool. He was literally 2inches from my face yelling at me, so I put my hand up in a stop gesture and yelled at him do you have a problem? We are in a court house!! Since I am was a little taller than him, when I removed my hand it tapped the end of the brim of his baseball cap. The minute it barely moved off his head he yells I'm pressing charges! His wife runs and grabs a cop. They keep me there 3 hours and eventually arrest me for simple battery.

He had his wife as a witness and another witness who says I slapped his hat off with a flip of the wrist motion (hello, exactly what i told the cop!) and yelled at him do you have a problem. Of course he had a witness, they thought I was cutting in line, so that one lady was real eager to sit around for that long and talk to a cop.

He put me in a room for all that time, then comes in and reads me my rights, but first says "you do know you were free to leave" I said, no I didn't know that. Then he says that he did tell me I could wait out front. I said, "waiting out front is not free to leave." Then he reads me my rights and tells me I slapped the hat off. I tell him one final time I did NOT slap the hat off, he was yelling and in my face I put my hand up for him to stop, open palm and his hat got TAPPED by accident. Then he cuffs me, puts me in the back of the car, and then another hour later after he talks to his gilfriend/wife, a friend, makes plans for the night, etc takes me out, and says I'm being released on seen and will recieve a notice to appear. That I am lucky he didn't take me in, and I should be grateful. Not only that but in the police report, the guy said I BOWED my chest out. Did they ever hear of pecs or posture? They acted like I was some sort of juiced out nut and had three cops escort me out. But I was completely calm the whole time. The cop even asked "why are you so calm? are you on any drugs?"

This happened in Florida. I just recently got married, have a great new job, and I can't afford jail time. On top of all this, we feel we might finally be having a baby. I am seeing some lawyers next week. I have appointments with three different ones. I don't care about pleading guilty, fines, etc as long as there is no jail time. I'm worried since I have a prior in 2004 for simple battery that this time they will send me to jail.

I've worked really hard the past couple of years to get my life in order. You have no idea the restraint it took not to hit that guy. He was yelling and in my face, following me as I was trying to leave. I try to do the right thing and it's almost as if he was praying for something like that to happen.

My one friend who has some legal experience said not to worry that since all I did was tap a guys cap off, that they might even drop it to civil infraction? And at most probably a fine. To be honest, I'm scared. If I was a single guy, with no cares, I wouldn't sweat it. But now that I'm married, have a life, bills, etc I am very nervous. My wife works, but she doesn't make the kind of money I do. What would she do if I were sent to jail? What if we are going to have a kid?! Any advice would be great. My mind is just racing right now.

 

[smaretick]

Hey brothers, I got arrested yesterday for knocking a guys baseball cap off at the court house. I was there to get the number for the highway patrol and some paperwork. To get the number I asked a lady who takes care of tickets. Since her window was clear, I went to ask her for the number real quick before she called anyone's number. It took about 5 seconds but this biker tough guy type comes up to me and is yelling at me, calling me a line cutter, etc. The front desk lady told the guy "it's ok, he just wanted a number" But sadly, she did not see the rest. I've been arrested before in 2004 for simple battery (got into a fight with a guy who offered my sister coke and harassed her sexually.), so I know now to keep my cool. He was literally 2inches from my face yelling at me, so I put my hand up in a stop gesture and yelled at him do you have a problem? We are in a court house!! Since I am was a little taller than him, when I removed my hand it tapped the end of the brim of his baseball cap. The minute it barely moved off his head he yells I'm pressing charges! His wife runs and grabs a cop. They keep me there 3 hours and eventually arrest me for simple battery.

He had his wife as a witness and another witness who says I slapped his hat off with a flip of the wrist motion (hello, exactly what i told the cop!) and yelled at him do you have a problem. Of course he had a witness, they thought I was cutting in line, so that one lady was real eager to sit around for that long and talk to a cop.

He put me in a room for all that time, then comes in and reads me my rights, but first says "you do know you were free to leave" I said, no I didn't know that. Then he says that he did tell me I could wait out front. I said, "waiting out front is not free to leave." Then he reads me my rights and tells me I slapped the hat off. I tell him one final time I did NOT slap the hat off, he was yelling and in my face I put my hand up for him to stop, open palm and his hat got TAPPED by accident. Then he cuffs me, puts me in the back of the car, and then another hour later after he talks to his gilfriend/wife, a friend, makes plans for the night, etc takes me out, and says I'm being released on seen and will recieve a notice to appear. That I am lucky he didn't take me in, and I should be grateful. Not only that but in the police report, the guy said I BOWED my chest out. Did they ever hear of pecs or posture? They acted like I was some sort of juiced out nut and had three cops escort me out. But I was completely calm the whole time. The cop even asked "why are you so calm? are you on any drugs?"

This happened in Florida. I just recently got married, have a great new job, and I can't afford jail time. On top of all this, we feel we might finally be having a baby. I am seeing some lawyers next week. I have appointments with three different ones. I don't care about pleading guilty, fines, etc as long as there is no jail time. I'm worried since I have a prior in 2004 for simple battery that this time they will send me to jail.

I've worked really hard the past couple of years to get my life in order. You have no idea the restraint it took not to hit that guy. He was yelling and in my face, following me as I was trying to leave. I try to do the right thing and it's almost as if he was praying for something like that to happen.

My one friend who has some legal experience said not to worry that since all I did was tap a guys cap off, that they might even drop it to civil infraction? And at most probably a fine. To be honest, I'm scared. If I was a single guy, with no cares, I wouldn't sweat it. But now that I'm married, have a life, bills, etc I am very nervous. My wife works, but she doesn't make the kind of money I do. What would she do if I were sent to jail? What if we are going to have a kid?! Any advice would be great. My mind is just racing right now.

Just my opinion based on my experiences with the so-called 'justice' system in this country: Get an opinion from a good lawyer...this probably will require you to hire/retain this lawyer but personally, I would do this w/o regard to cost if possible. Get some opinions from people who have retained legal help in your geographic area & find a good/competent law firm. I found out the hard way that justice in this country comes at a price & is in direct proportion to the cost of such legal help/advice. Whatever you do, IMHO I would not try to represent myself, use a 'public pretender', or cheap out on a lawyer.
Not really sure about Fla. but I know it's a 'bush' state so that can't be good

Good luck.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Well i gotta believe that a judge is gonna see this as a waste of time. Knocking a guy's hat off - intentional or no - is so minor in comparison to the human garbage that's paraded in front of him all day. I gotta believe that this is just a couple jerkoffs on a powertrip (the cops I mean).

You'll be fine, but get a lawyer just in case.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Thanks brother. Reading that really calmed me down. I guess I'm so paranoid because of that previous charge I had in 04. But like you said this is just a hat. I guess I'll see what the lawyers say on Monday! Thanks to both of you for the replies and advice. I was freaking out.

 

[Guinness5.0]

I bet the court has security cameras. Try to find out if the incident was recorded....

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Sadly, not in that area where this took place. I wish it would have happened in front of the clerk who saw him come up to me and harrass me. The cop was on a big time power trip. They treated me like I just killed someone.

I'd be willing to deal with the state. I'd take probation, fines, etc as long as there is no jail. I can't afford to lose my job. How messed up is this that you can get arrested over a hat! It will come to the point where people won't be able to even look at each other a certain way without getting in trouble!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I would not plead guilty to anything. Fight this out....This shit should immediately be dismissed. Get a good lawyer. This is some serious bulshit. Dude your not going to go to jail for knocking a guys hat of unintentionally. RELAX....As long as you have a lawyer who is not brain dead you will be good. People get charged with things 1000x worse than this and dont sweat it. Fuck..your innocent....get your justice even if itl cost you some extra money. All your lawyer ahs to do is present your case competently.

I hope that biker falls of his cycle.

 

[stormin67]

I would not plead guilty to anything. Fight this out....This shit should immediately be dismissed. Get a good lawyer. This is some serious bulshit. Dude your not going to go to jail for knocking a guys hat of unintentionally. RELAX....As long as you have a lawyer who is not brain dead you will be good. People get charged with things 1000x worse than this and dont sweat it. Fuck..your innocent....get your justice even if itl cost you some extra money. All your lawyer ahs to do is present your case competently.

I hope that biker falls of his cycle.

Just remember "Not all bikers are a piece of shit, though this one was."

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I never said they were bro. Theres a bunch of good guys. But i hope this one falls of his bike.

 

[Hillmachine]

Wow, i can't believe you even got arrested for doing something as trivial as that. If it was over here i would be 100% confident that this matter would go no further, but obviously i don't know anything about your laws. Seems very harsh to me though man.

Hope all goes well for you

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Hill, my wife said the same thing. She is from Greece and says the cops wouldn't waste their time with such a thing. Our legal system is all messed up. Everyone is sue happy and drug dealers and killers go free while stuff like this happens or people trying to improve their body by doing a cycle, etc get in trouble.

I want to thank all of you guys for offering the kind words of motivation and encouragement. It also means a lot to my wife. I've been more worried about her than anything. She worries so much for me. It feels good to know I have such a woman by my side and all of my brothers here on Elite.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

You will be good brother. Dont wory. Just get a good atorney to make sure you get justice. This should be dismissed...have your lawyer ask for surveilance videos, etc. This is a joke. Its like bumping into someone.....its an accident. THIS WILL GET DISMISSED/WON if you have an attorney who has a brain. Hell the prosecutor should in theory throw something like this out. Its a waste of damn tax payer dollars to prosecute people for this crap. Now spitting in someones face, I could see where you get some community service etc., if you have a record. But..this is a no brainer. Keep us updated...IM CONFIDENT...that thru competent legal counsel and or a reasonable and fair legal system in your neck of the woods...this will get easily dismissed/won.

But just in case get a sharp lawyer. Hell you cant trust the system to do its job alone. Even for soemething as stupid as this you need good representation.

2 most important people you need in this country

1.Lawyer
2.Doctor

In that order.

 

[nuevo laredo]

dont they have survelience cameras?

That was the first question that came to my mind.

Do they??

 

[c3bodybuilding]

No, they don't have camera's in that area. They did have a witness and a camera in the area where he first came up to me. I live in a tiny crap town, the cops have nothing better to do here. If they bust someone with an ounce of weed, they put it in the paper. Yes, it's that pathetic.

I was trying to avoid posting some personal information, but I've been here for over 4 years, I consider Elite like a home away from home, so I don't care:

The witness and camera show him bothering me but he followed me to the waiting area where his hat got 'slapped' off. I suffer from severe anxiety as some of you bro's who have been on here for a while might know. I've been taking celexia for a couple of years, zoloft before that. I had run out of my medicine since Monday (the arrest happened wednesday). I was so nervous with the way that guy was acting, because like I said, I don't want trouble anymore. I got into a fight in 2004, I don't need that anymore. I actually just got off partial disability (for severe anxiety, panic disorder and depression, social anxiety), finished up with school, and got my life all together. When that guy bothered me, since I was alone,and hadn't taken my medicine in a week, I was so shaky, that when he came close to my face, and I held my hand open palm to him, and since I am taller than him, that is how it got tapped off. He had a cap on with a brim. He was so close to me. Then the cops treated me like I killed someone.

The cops were very rude to me. While I was waiting for the deputy to show up, the court officer held me in a waiting area while the other guy was allowed to sit in the normal place. I tried to tell him I didn't slap anyones hat off and he goes, "Yeah buddy. Hat's go flying off on there own all the time. Look, there goes one now!" Then after 30mins I ask him, "How long will this take?" He then yells at me, "AS LONG AS IT TAKES PAL" When the deputy arrives he took me to a private room and asks me what had happened, I told him talk to the ticket clerk and told him everything. He then tells me to sit at the desk and fill out a report. He then asks me if I want to wait in the other secure area where the court officer is or in the room. I told him I was nervous and afraid (now I felt like my social anxiety had felt like five years ago) and I would prefer to stay in the room.

After about 10mins the rude court officer comes in and yells at me why am I sitting at the desk. I told him the deputy had me sit there to fill out a report. He then yells at me "Get away from there, sit in the chair in the corner!" Then he LOCKS me in the room. 5mins later the deputy comes in and ask's me, "You do know you were free to leave" I told him no i did not and that sitting outside where I was before or being locked in a room was not free to leave. Then he goes "well yeah, you were free to leave" And that is when he read me my rights.

The fucking cop reads me my rights, but doesn't tell me I'm under arrest or cuff me. I'm so deep into the worse panic attack of my life at this point, wondering what would happen to my wife if I got arrested, that when he asked me one last time what happened, I didn't even think about it and told him once more, "no i did not slap anyones hat off, I tapped it by accident." After that, he says im under arrest and cuffs me. Then that ends up in the report. But he didnt put the accident part, and when I asked why later, he told me "nevermind that" and took the fingerprints, etc


When I was in the back of the cop car, and he was making his personal calls, I felt like I was going to have a heart attack. I tried to ask him to take me to the er, and the bastard turned up the radio and blasts a country song to ignore me. The cuffs were so tight I had deep red marks until the next day. He eventually opens the back door and tells me I'm being released on scene and I am VERY lucky his boss was in a good mood and they were busy at the jail house or else I would be there now. I had tried to remain calm even though my heart was racing so bad, and I couldn't get rid of the shakes, and I tried my best to polite. So calm and polite that the cop actually asked, "Why are you so calm, are you on any drugs?!" The fucker doesn't uncuff me outside, he makes me walk back in, in FRONT OF EVERYONE back into the tiny room, and thats where he uncuffs me and I asked about the report, and what certain things meant and why he left certain things out. That's when he told me nevermind that, etc.

As we were walking back into the court house, he told me to learn to keep my hands to myself and if a judge had seen me slap that hat off I would be sitting in jail for a long time until the trial. After I was uncuffed, I tried to be polite as I told him I was sorry he had to come down for such a thing and he said "Get out of here NOW"

On my way out, I even told that rude ass court officer, sorry about everything. He goes "Done deal buddy, tell it to the judge, jury whoever."


When I came home I collapsed on the my bed and had the worst panic attack I've ever experienced. I fell into such a deep depression I slept most of wednesday and thursday away. My wife was worried on saturday and saw I ran out of my medicine and took me to the er, and they told me I was suffering from massive anxiety and the court incident only made it worse and prescribed me an emergency dose of the celexia.

The cops were worse than the biker guy. They treated me like scum dirt. I am a pretty clean cut looking guy, 24, married, live a private life. The other guy was really dirty and rough looking. I guess because of my build, I'm evil or something. I love how I bowed my chest out in the police report. It's called pecs?!

I've tried so hard to get my life in order. 5 years ago, I couldn't go to a crowded public place alone. I had to finish high school from home. I finally got to the point where I was fine, got off the disability, was on partial, and then finally was able to work full time outside of the house. I found my soul mate who is truly the greatest girl a guy could ask for and so understanding and loving. I just felt like I finally had it all. I felt like for once I could be happy. Now I feel like shit. I'm scared I'm going to lose it all and end up at back at square one. The er dr said once the medicine kicks back in I should be ok, and that it's important to realise things like this don't happen every day. And I know that,but right now I am going through emotional hell. I had to work 6 days in a row starting friday and people notice something isn't right. I went from so happy and energetic to be around, to very closed off and sad looking. I haven't eaten anything over the past few days but scraps. Today I ate half of a turkey sandwich and that's it. I turn 25 on thursday, and I don't even care to celebrate it.

Anyway, there's the full story and I'm sorry it's so long, I just needed to vent. Sorry for the rant guys. ANd again thank you all so much for offering advice and support, it truly does mean the world to me. - C3

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Bro. 1st. from what you wrote you should not be juicing.
2nd. You need to see a doctor asap.
3rd. The sherifs debuties couldnt do anything more to you than to write you a summons. They are trained in fear tactics/admision of guilt and a general working around the rights process. They try to build cases for themselves or scare the person when they have nothing. And in this case for a bad reason.
What you should od done is asked if your under arrest..they had no authority to keep you there is they were not goign to arrest you following a brief detainment. What you shoudl have done is said unless im under arrest im leaving. You gave them permission to detain you further by sitting in that room. Notice the deputy asked you " you dont mind waiting here do you" same as "you dont mind if i search this car do you"
Typical good cop/bad cop & scare & deception psychological tactics.

Im not trying to rip on you man but help you. Go see a doctor...from what you have written you are extremmely unstable. Dont juice, go see a doctor ( althogh personally feel al that medication only makes the situation worse & docotrs need to get people off of it gradualy) and lastly get a lawyer for this. This is the least of your wories. You need medical help.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I've been clean from juice since November. I'm fine with the celexia or zoloft, but without it a nervous wreck. I had tried short term fixes like xanax, but I just felt drugged out on that stuff. I was going to do a cycle in January but postponed it to see how I felt without the medication. I am on HRT for low test levels, which the doctor feels was part of the depression, but I stopped taking it because I didn't want to be dependant on anything. This all started when I ran over a man who was riding a bicycle drunk. I was never charged with anything, and the cops even said they would have given him a DUI for driving a bike under the influence, but I felt so guilty. I had even held his hand while I waited for the ambulance to come. Before long I didn't like driving alone, and I started having the panic and anxiety.

My therapist said I was completely fine and ready to resume my life again, that too much had been put on hold. That's when I started college, and then started to drive again without being nervous, etc.

I had called her and told her what happened and she is seeing me today (monday) in the afternoon when I am done work.

I am seeing the lawyer Tuesday. I think this all rattled me so bad because it reminded me of that inccident with the guy.

I guess I'll see what happens and let everyone know after I talk to the attorney. He had nothing sooner than that.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I see bro. Sorry about your events. Thats quite an experience. Here is where my problem is.

Doctors....you should never of been put on medication..2 seperate medications for your "depression". Just like John Tredaue's book natural cures they dont want you to know about....the medical establishment is pushing drugs that are not needed but themselves cause disseases and problems.......these drugs make you a zombie and dont cure you from shit....they essentially gaurantee that you will be depenedant on them to sustain a normal life. People came back from WW1 and WW2, NAM etc.. and were eventualy fine after therapy and talking to a psychologist/psychiatrist. Drugs are not only unneeded but the problem here.

Here is what i recomend as im not a doctor. DO NOT get of these drugs because of my post........i simply recomend that you go see another doctor...one who disagrees with pushing of these drugs ( there are many of them..find one) and have him gradually ween you of them till you are totaly off. This will be the bes tthing you can do for yourself. You will be very thankfull later.

Take it slow....get of them under the suppervision of that doctor..he can suggest doses and subsitiute medication. Dont self medicate IMO.

Kids as early as 5 yrs old beign put on drugs...Ridalin etc....Xanax...the drug makers are fucking up people from the start...making damn sure they need their crap to sustain life..when in reality they dont. They are makign diseases out of everything. Hell even being overweight is a disease now. You need a medicine to fight a disesase legaly by the FDA. BULSHIT.

After you go to a different doctor..i suggest you IMMEDIATELY pick up John Trudeaus "Natural Cures They Dont Want you to Know about"... this is a great book and its the truth. Its only about 15-30$ too. Read the chapter about depression etc and get cured not medicated!

I guarantee you you will be feeling 10x better permenabtly and will be cured not medicated and dependant!

 

[blueghost]

I didn't see you mention anywhere what the actual legal charge was. If you get an attorney, you really dont have much to worry about, a fine at most. Just make sure you tell the attorney everything you told us on this post. Any halfway decent lawyer should be able to get you off with something very minor. At most a misdemeanor.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Blue, that's what the lawyer I saw today said too. THey charged me with simple battery, weapon (hands). He said he could probably get it down to a civil infraction.

Polfa, you are right. I felt like crap after the accident, so I went to a therapist to talk to her about it. Next thing you know she tells me I have social anxiety, depression, post traumatic stress disorder, etc, etc. I started to think, "WOW I must really be fucked up" My school even gave me partial disability (only recieved while I was actually taking my classes, if not in school, they dont give the money) so that the medicine i was prescribed would be paid for.

So she puts me on zoloft and the dose she put me on, I looked it up at the time was REALLY high, 100mgs! Then she switched it to celexia 40mgs which is a high dose as well. She also put me on xanax 1mg to be taken three times a day(if im not mistaken thats a high dose too). That shit right there (xanax) I stopped taking on my own after one time. I didn't even tell her I stopped. It made me feel like I was drugged out. As for the other things, this may sound crazy, but I think the antidepressants actually made me never get over killing that guy. Let me explain, while you are on them, you never really get sad, upset, angry, hurt or even too excited. You are just *there*. Alive, but yet not alive. If that makes any sense? I think if I would have just let myself talk to someone about it, cry it out a few times, etc etc I would have naturally gotten over it all.

So, after being on these crap drugs for so long, I finally decided I didn't want to take them anymore. I felt fine. I actually started to think, maybe this lady is just feeding me a bunch of crap all this time. If I was fine before the accident, why couldn't I be fine again naturally? So I stopped taking them a week and a half ago. Then I started having anxiety like never before, and then that court room incident with that guy really blew me over the top.

So today I went to a NEW doctor and told him EVERYTHING. He said the reason why I broke down so bad after the arrest was because I was suffering narcotic withdrawl?! He told me to keep taking the medicine but he is going to slowly lower the dose until I am off it completely (40 a day for a week, then 35, then 30, 25, 20 etc etc). He said what I thought, If I would have just talked about it, I would have gotten over it mysef after a few months, and that I don't need to beat myself up over this anymore. I didn't hurt anybody, and that if that guy was drinking, he shouldn't have been riding a bike. I knew that all along, but it felt good hear it from another doctor who wasn't also telling me I had all of these other problems and that I needed to take x y and z.

As for that other therapist, she could go fuck herself. According to this new doctor, she actually fucked me up more by putting me on that stuff. And shit, withdrawls?! That's fucking creepy as shit. No wonder I felt like I was going insane.

I'm going to go buy that book NOW. I'll be on later bro's, I hope Barnes and Nobles has it.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Glad to see your head is working good bro. You are a smart bro. I was goign to post exactly that. "You were in withdrawl" And it realy sucks for the guy but...it aint your fault....period. You cant control that.

You will be good to go before any time at all brother! The court thing is a joke too.
Doctors..many of them are nothing more that IGNORANT...LIBERAL...DRUG DEALERS.
There are geniouses.....you have to go to people who know wtf their doing..like the guy your seing now. I would so love to meet this bitch you went to and smash her face into the fucking ground. Drug the bitch up on some narcotics and let her loose in a zoo. I hope that boker rapes her in an alley somewhere for fuckin up peoples lives. I have seen genious MD's before. I have been diagnosed a missdiagnosed a diabetic, lmfao...and recomended surgerys that i never needed. If i had listened i would be sitting here with less of my dick literaly, on insulin that i never need, and with a metal ball in my shoulder. Hell people i know have been told they are crazy when they went to the doc and told him they were having a stroke. A few years later they were diagnosed with having several strokes durign that time.
You have to be the smaretest bro. And when you can be what you got to do be damn sure your finding someone who knows more that you not less.

I realy would like to smash this cunts head in that put you on all those drugs.

 

[BigCracker]

Well i gotta believe that a judge is gonna see this as a waste of time. Knocking a guy's hat off - intentional or no - is so minor in comparison to the human garbage that's paraded in front of him all day. I gotta believe that this is just a couple jerkoffs on a powertrip (the cops I mean).

You'll be fine, but get a lawyer just in case.

I agree-small dicked cops were gunning for you. I was a bouncer in IL for years-and unless the guy I threw out had footprints on his back and a face that looked like raw hamburger I never got charged with assault. Get a lawyer-and next time someone tries to be a tough guy remember what a pain in the ass going to court is before you pummel him.

 

[ocisbomb]

Get the guy to agree to something called a "civil comprimise". Appologize, tell him your story, and then have an atty get you off that way.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I don't know what's going on with this. It's not in the computer at the court house, and then they sent me to the DA office to see if they had it on their pc. Not there either. I knock on wood and hope the da read what bs of a charge this was and decided to toss it!!

 

[tysonchance]

I don't know what's going on with this. It's not in the computer at the court house, and then they sent me to the DA office to see if they had it on their pc. Not there either. I knock on wood and hope the da read what bs of a charge this was and decided to toss it!!

I think its sort of funny that anyone is even talking about this. If anything would ever come of this it would be a disorderly conduct. Whenever you are charged with anything they are always trumped up so they can atleast hit you with something. The most you would get would be a fine and call it quits.

I was charged with Ag assult in Jan 2002 for a bar fight. This charge was a felony of course, but my lawyer said that cops will always hike up the charges so they can atleast get something.

Your actions were non threating and the last I checked knocking somebody's hat off wasnt grouds for a violent crime.

You have nothing to worry about bro.

 

[perp69]

I am not an attorney but this how I see it.

First, get an attorney. It will probably be settled out of court with fine and probation if the biker persist with it. Your medical condition could play into your defense. Sounds like the guy was intimidating you so you may be able to counter with that and get it dropped. Just a thought.

Second, the cops are doing what they have to do. If someone makes a complaint and has a witness to assault then they have to followup or their asses may be in a sling. Not saying that they might not be dicks but they usually response to you how you are responding to them.

Third, in the future you want to look like the good guy. Instead of saying "you got a problem buddy" and seeming aggressive to any witnesses you put up your hands palms facing him and say something nonaggressive like "sorry man, I don't want any trouble, just trying to get a phone number". From that point the witnesses are thinking you are the good looking one not wanting any trouble and this mean biker started it. Get the idea. Plus if anything happens your hands are already up to block and knock the fucker on his arse.

I wouldn't stress over it though. I got a friend that clocked a guy because he thought the guy looked at him wrong at the ATM. He got probation and paid a small fine and he has got a long record too.

Perp

 

[needtogetaas]

Hey brothers, I got arrested yesterday for knocking a guys baseball cap off at the court house. I was there to get the number for the highway patrol and some paperwork. To get the number I asked a lady who takes care of tickets. Since her window was clear, I went to ask her for the number real quick before she called anyone's number. It took about 5 seconds but this biker tough guy type comes up to me and is yelling at me, calling me a line cutter, etc. The front desk lady told the guy "it's ok, he just wanted a number" But sadly, she did not see the rest. I've been arrested before in 2004 for simple battery (got into a fight with a guy who offered my sister coke and harassed her sexually.), so I know now to keep my cool. He was literally 2inches from my face yelling at me, so I put my hand up in a stop gesture and yelled at him do you have a problem? We are in a court house!! Since I am was a little taller than him, when I removed my hand it tapped the end of the brim of his baseball cap. The minute it barely moved off his head he yells I'm pressing charges! His wife runs and grabs a cop. They keep me there 3 hours and eventually arrest me for simple battery.

He had his wife as a witness and another witness who says I slapped his hat off with a flip of the wrist motion (hello, exactly what i told the cop!) and yelled at him do you have a problem. Of course he had a witness, they thought I was cutting in line, so that one lady was real eager to sit around for that long and talk to a cop.

He put me in a room for all that time, then comes in and reads me my rights, but first says "you do know you were free to leave" I said, no I didn't know that. Then he says that he did tell me I could wait out front. I said, "waiting out front is not free to leave." Then he reads me my rights and tells me I slapped the hat off. I tell him one final time I did NOT slap the hat off, he was yelling and in my face I put my hand up for him to stop, open palm and his hat got TAPPED by accident. Then he cuffs me, puts me in the back of the car, and then another hour later after he talks to his gilfriend/wife, a friend, makes plans for the night, etc takes me out, and says I'm being released on seen and will recieve a notice to appear. That I am lucky he didn't take me in, and I should be grateful. Not only that but in the police report, the guy said I BOWED my chest out. Did they ever hear of pecs or posture? They acted like I was some sort of juiced out nut and had three cops escort me out. But I was completely calm the whole time. The cop even asked "why are you so calm? are you on any drugs?"

This happened in Florida. I just recently got married, have a great new job, and I can't afford jail time. On top of all this, we feel we might finally be having a baby. I am seeing some lawyers next week. I have appointments with three different ones. I don't care about pleading guilty, fines, etc as long as there is no jail time. I'm worried since I have a prior in 2004 for simple battery that this time they will send me to jail.

I've worked really hard the past couple of years to get my life in order. You have no idea the restraint it took not to hit that guy. He was yelling and in my face, following me as I was trying to leave. I try to do the right thing and it's almost as if he was praying for something like that to happen.

My one friend who has some legal experience said not to worry that since all I did was tap a guys cap off, that they might even drop it to civil infraction? And at most probably a fine. To be honest, I'm scared. If I was a single guy, with no cares, I wouldn't sweat it. But now that I'm married, have a life, bills, etc I am very nervous. My wife works, but she doesn't make the kind of money I do. What would she do if I were sent to jail? What if we are going to have a kid?! Any advice would be great. My mind is just racing right now.

fight it all the way bro.you dident do anny thing.besides it amazing what you can get away with if you just have the balls to go all they way.
I have gotten off on asalt and batterys.b and e's larsiny,grand theft,2 dwi's,3 leaving the seen of acsadants,and a home invatoin just because I had the balls to call bull shit and know they had nothing.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Well, I got the court paper. 2 weeks! They are still charging with simple battery. I thought they would have thrown this out. I'm going to see if my lawyer can get this dropped to a fine at most. Thanks bros for all the encouragement and advice. I feel good about this now and not worried at all.

 

[jonnydigital]

Well, I got the court paper. 2 weeks! They are still charging with simple battery. I thought they would have thrown this out. I'm going to see if my lawyer can get this dropped to a fine at most. Thanks bros for all the encouragement and advice. I feel good about this now and not worried at all.

This country is so fucked up. I am 23 now, but 8-9 years ago when I first started high school I got jumped on the first day off of the school property by several guys. I was 14 at the time, and atleast 2 of the others were 18 yrs old, one was even 19 yrs old. The cops wouldn't even charge any of them with assault, they said it wasn't enough to charge him. (since there were no bruises or other marks to be seen at only 1 hour after.)

So this asshole got his hat knocked off when he was trying to come at you, and he gets to charge you with BATTERY? WTF?!

 

[Papa Lion]

hey bro.... go in a clean cut all american boy... explain your case... have an attorney and it should go smooth!!

last May I pulled an assault case... and it was flat out crooked the way I did it and everyone from the cop to the DA to the judge took my side but because it was so crooked I was still put on probation and 80 hrs community service which I got signed off for being a wrestling coach at a local HS (and I'm paid to do it, but in the off season it's under the table )

here was the situation... my little brother went up to 24 hour fitnes for a pick-up game of basketball... he got jumped by this gang of asians... cause he was one of the best players to come through the state in a while!! anyways they were all ages 24-36, my brother had just turned 18 but he came into the gym wearting his letterman coat so the little bastards knew how young he was... so his friend calls me to tell me he just got jumped and they weren't letting him get his stuff... I'm only about 1 mile away so I was ther in 2.2 seconds.... went into the gym where they were and proceeded to get in the mix.... nothing but words were exchanged at the time becaus eI knew I was on the cameras, and not one of those little maggots would step up or outside... about that time the cops rolled up... I finished telling them how I was gonna fuck 'em in their asses!! 3 of them get arrested but the charges get dropped cause the DA said they couldn't see clearly enough who was throwing the punches (what a crock of shit they all were!! anyways a year goes by... when I am up at 24 HF with a buddy of mine who was there and the only one that stuck up for tmy bro and threw hands at the maggots!! anyway we were in the locker room... when 3 asians come in and sure enough 2-3 were the same motherfuckers... my buddy said we gotta say somethin... I finished lacing my boots but opted to leave my shirt off... he was in the shower by that time.., I went over ripped open the shower and said "you remember me you little faggot... a year ago I said I was gonna fuck you in your ass... an I'm here to collect!!" you should have seen the deer in the headlights look on his face!!! I then hit him once... with enough force to send him to the wall behind him out cold... pretty fuckin funny site to see the blood splatterin on the walls and running down the drain cause the shower was still on!! at that point the other 2 were on the other side of the room and I told my buddy we should roll... cause cops were comin!! (quick reasoning of why I chose to do it that way.... cause I wanted him to feel alone, most vulnerable and scared.... I wanted to the put the pain of terror in his body before I gave him any physical pain, I wanted him to feel what my little brother felt... and by doing so giving back to my brother some of what they took!!)

I wouldn't worry about it... when you go to court... play the "all-american boy" card... it was a biker.... they are notorious for causing trouble.... make sure the judge sees that!!! good luck bro!!! sometimes the good guys get fucked by the system.. sometimes you end up dealing with some good ones in the system and justice does prevail!!

PS the judge even threw out the $1400 dollars restitution the guy wanted!! hahha!!! he had to pay all his own medical bills!! hahaha!!!

ohhh an another thing I didn't lie about the situation... I told everybody from the cop to the DA to the judge the whole story!! except I said he was already getting out of the shower when I noticed him and words were exchanged... and it elevated from there!!! haaha!!

again best of luck bro!!! ohh and kudos for stompin the maggot that offered your sister coke/sex!!!


~Papa Lion~

 

[Papa Lion]

I'm going to go buy that book NOW. I'll be on later bro's, I hope Barnes and Nobles has it.

if you mean that Kevin Trudeau's book ... look him up on the internet... he is a bigger scammer than most of the pharm companies!!!! I'm not condoning the meds epidemic.... but this guy is a total fraud... and has to keep an account with something like a million dolars just for his future scam restitution!! he has been doing this stuff for years!! look him up before you put any money in his pocket... after ya know his history... then decide if ya want the book... but if ya look at in the bookstore you'll see some of those cures are equal to fairy dust!!!

my mom bought it and I saw it on her table and started thumbing through it... interesting read... but dangerous IMHO...

again I am not condoning the use of widespread and misdiagnosed meds!!

~Papa Lion~