Good cycle?

[RacaTwister]

Hey brothers!
I'm about to commence my first cycle shortly and I just want to get you guys opinion on it and what would be a good PCT to go with it.

Stats:
23yrs
6'3"
Around 180lbs
bf 10-11%
Training seriously 3 years

Bench 180lbs

My diets consists of 5 meals/day, chicken rice red meat pasta veggies.

My goal with this is to put on lean mass and keeping as much of it as possible. I'm not in a hurry, I just want a boost. For me its more important to avoid severe sides than getting quick results so I want to use the best PCT known to man.

This is what I'm considering:
1-8 Test E 400mg (split mon & thur)
1-6 Masteron 300mg E3D
1-8 HCGen

Now what would be a great PCT for this cycle??

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Hey brothers!
I'm about to commence my first cycle shortly and I just want to get you guys opinion on it and what would be a good PCT to go with it.

Stats:
23yrs
6'3"
Around 180lbs
bf 10-11%
Training seriously 3 years

Bench 180lbs

My diets consists of 5 meals/day, chicken rice red meat pasta veggies.

My goal with this is to put on lean mass and keeping as much of it as possible. I'm not in a hurry, I just want a boost. For me its more important to avoid severe sides than getting quick results so I want to use the best PCT known to man.

This is what I'm considering:
1-8 Test E 400mg (split mon & thur)
1-6 Masteron 300mg E3D
1-8 HCGen

Now what would be a great PCT for this cycle??

Mastron too low and too early.

Your 180 and 6'3"? You need to train and eat more natty imho.

If you decide to cycle anyway only run test

 

[gymjunkie09]

how much did you weigh when you started training? if you've been training 3 yrs and you're only 180 at 6'3" there is no way you're eating enough, you should be 200 plus EASY after 3 yrs

 

[Proppar]

Just go test only cycle, with aromasin on hand and unleashed/post cycle/ clomid pct.

But yeh u are way under sized

 

[dylangemelli]

my friend, you have no business running any sort of cycle right now... you are much too undersized and can grow a lot without taking anything... your wasting all your natural growing... your cycle is a mess anyway... you have it set up completely wrong... your running everything wrong, you have no idea about any pct... you have spoken of no ancillaries... do yourself a favor... head over to the diet section and ask diet questions because your diet is obviously lacking at this point... do not run any sort of cycle because for so many reasons, you are far from ready...

 

[joeblow12345]

my friend, you have no business running any sort of cycle right now... you are much too undersized and can grow a lot without taking anything... your wasting all your natural growing... your cycle is a mess anyway... you have it set up completely wrong... your running everything wrong, you have no idea about any pct... you have spoken of no ancillaries... do yourself a favor... head over to the diet section and ask diet questions because your diet is obviously lacking at this point... do not run any sort of cycle because for so many reasons, you are far from ready...

This^^^^

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[GradeABeef]

I agree with Dylan. You have a 180 lbs. bench?
I am the middle of my second tren cycle and bench 350lbs 8 times. I am 200lbs.
Lift hard and heavy and when you can bench 150% of your body weight think about a cycle.

 

[RacaTwister]

how much did you weigh when you started training? if you've been training 3 yrs and you're only 180 at 6'3" there is no way you're eating enough, you should be 200 plus EASY after 3 yrs

I hear what u're saying but the thing is I was around 145-150lbs when I started training cuz I had lost alooot of weight recovering from a serious operation from an accident so Ive put on about 35lbs of lean mass during these years(with foodbased diet only since I started with supps only this year) and I know I'm genetically a slow grower, everyone in my family is on the skinnier side but trust me, I'm a big eater and have always been. Tho I'm only 180lbs, most ppl that see me dont believe Im that light.

I'll post some pics in a few hours so you'll get an idea.

 

[b3tw33n_th3_buri3d_and_m3]

perfect cycle

1-12 all you can eat buffet for breakfast
1-12 all you can eat buffet post workout

 

[dylangemelli]

I hear what u're saying but the thing is I was around 145-150lbs when I started training cuz I had lost alooot of weight recovering from a serious operation from an accident so Ive put on about 35lbs of lean mass during these years(with foodbased diet only since I started with supps only this year) and I know I'm genetically a slow grower, everyone in my family is on the skinnier side but trust me, I'm a big eater and have always been. Tho I'm only 180lbs, most ppl that see me dont believe Im that light.

I'll post some pics in a few hours so you'll get an idea.

bro unfortunately noone is going to buy the fast metabolism thing or the "i just can't gain weight" thing... your diet is what you need to be focusing on right now... i would love to set you up a nice cycle but you are just not physically ready for that yet bro... your going to see that everyone will tell you the same thing...

 

[RacaTwister]

bro unfortunately noone is going to buy the fast metabolism thing or the "i just can't gain weight" thing... your diet is what you need to be focusing on right now... i would love to set you up a nice cycle but you are just not physically ready for that yet bro... your going to see that everyone will tell you the same thing...

Average day:
Breakfast: Large bowl of oatmeal with yoghurt with almonds, Whey shake with peanut butter, creatine shake.
Meal 1: Club sandwich(two) with chicken, bacon, egg on it.
Meal 2: Pasta sallad with chicken, ham and various veggies.
Meal 3: Hot dog, whey shake with peanut butter.
Meal 4: Chicken filet with rice, ausparagus, veggies.
Snack: Some peanuts dipped in yoghurt or beef jerky
Meal 5: Bread with ham n cheese or a plate of leftover chicken n rice from meal 4.
Finish with a whey/casein shake before bed.

 

[Proppar]

Average day:
Breakfast: Large bowl of oatmeal with yoghurt with almonds, Whey shake with peanut butter, creatine shake.
Meal 1: Club sandwich(two) with chicken, bacon, egg on it.
Meal 2: Pasta sallad with chicken, ham and various veggies.
Meal 3: Hot dog, whey shake with peanut butter.
Meal 4: Chicken filet with rice, ausparagus, veggies.
Snack: Some peanuts dipped in yoghurt or beef jerky
Meal 5: Bread with ham n cheese or a plate of leftover chicken n rice from meal 4.
Finish with a whey/casein shake before bed.

Wats the macro breakdown here? Cause this is a mess

 

[deltamarketing]

You can increase mastron at 350mg and it would be better for you.

 

[bonacris]

Average day:
Breakfast: Large bowl of oatmeal with yoghurt with almonds, Whey shake with peanut butter, creatine shake.
Meal 1: Club sandwich(two) with chicken, bacon, egg on it.
Meal 2: Pasta sallad with chicken, ham and various veggies.
Meal 3: Hot dog, whey shake with peanut butter.
Meal 4: Chicken filet with rice, ausparagus, veggies.
Snack: Some peanuts dipped in yoghurt or beef jerky
Meal 5: Bread with ham n cheese or a plate of leftover chicken n rice from meal 4.
Finish with a whey/casein shake before bed.

Diet is a mess.. why don't you finish meal four and why are you only.eating leftovers or a sandwich for.meal five.. that's not proper eating and you won't put on any weight witht that diet.. and I'm saying this cos I used to have similar diet with lots of sandwiches and crap like hotdogs and I didn't get anywhere.. spend some time in the diet section bro and itll show you what you should be doing
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[Dylan22]

Average day:
Breakfast: Large bowl of oatmeal with yoghurt with almonds, Whey shake with peanut butter, creatine shake.
Meal 1: Club sandwich(two) with chicken, bacon, egg on it.
Meal 2: Pasta sallad with chicken, ham and various veggies.
Meal 3: Hot dog, whey shake with peanut butter.
Meal 4: Chicken filet with rice, ausparagus, veggies.
Snack: Some peanuts dipped in yoghurt or beef jerky
Meal 5: Bread with ham n cheese or a plate of leftover chicken n rice from meal 4.
Finish with a whey/casein shake before bed.

Sorry bro but This is not being a 'big eater' tryna gain weight at all! Being a big eater compared to the rest of your family unfortunately doesn't make u a big eater that should be gaining heaps of weight. I'm a big eater bro and I'm 5.8 207 lbs at about 14% bf(I think). you need to eat as much as you possibly can all day, then eat even more and ul start seeing results!

 

[dylangemelli]

Average day:
Breakfast: Large bowl of oatmeal with yoghurt with almonds, Whey shake with peanut butter, creatine shake.
Meal 1: Club sandwich(two) with chicken, bacon, egg on it.
Meal 2: Pasta sallad with chicken, ham and various veggies.
Meal 3: Hot dog, whey shake with peanut butter.
Meal 4: Chicken filet with rice, ausparagus, veggies.
Snack: Some peanuts dipped in yoghurt or beef jerky
Meal 5: Bread with ham n cheese or a plate of leftover chicken n rice from meal 4.
Finish with a whey/casein shake before bed.

bro, you need to go to the diet section and post this diet and ask for help because it is needed... if you correct this, you will be amazed at the changes you have naturally...

 

[GradeABeef]

I don't care how your diet is, if you lift and do it barely right for three years you will bench more than 180.
I know people that say they are dedicated to the sport and get to the gym once a week if they remember.
They don't see gains either.

 

[RacaTwister]

I don't care how your diet is, if you lift and do it barely right for three years you will bench more than 180.
I know people that say they are dedicated to the sport and get to the gym once a week if they remember.
They don't see gains either.

When did I ever say I'm not getting gains? I've gotten alot of gains since I started. Slowly but steadily. All I want is a little boost. I go to the gym at least 5 days a week. Sometimes more but since I lost some progress in the beginning by overtraining (8 times per week) I'm trying to hold it at a good 5 days/week. Going to the gym is never an issue, the issue is sometimes finding the time to cook and eat 5-6 meal during busy days.

 

[Proppar]

When did I ever say I'm not getting gains? I've gotten alot of gains since I started. Slowly but steadily. All I want is a little boost. I go to the gym at least 5 days a week. Sometimes more but since I lost some progress in the beginning by overtraining (8 times per week) I'm trying to hold it at a good 5 days/week. Going to the gym is never an issue, the issue is sometimes finding the time to cook and eat 5-6 meal during busy days.

Lol that last sentence mate is exactly why u shouldn't be even considering running aas. Case closed, please post up in diet section before u hurt urself and waste everyone's time

 

[Soadman]

Hey brothers!
I'm about to commence my first cycle shortly and I just want to get you guys opinion on it and what would be a good PCT to go with it.

Stats:
23yrs
6'3"
Around 180lbs
bf 10-11%
Training seriously 3 years

Bench 180lbs

My diets consists of 5 meals/day, chicken rice red meat pasta veggies.

My goal with this is to put on lean mass and keeping as much of it as possible. I'm not in a hurry, I just want a boost. For me its more important to avoid severe sides than getting quick results so I want to use the best PCT known to man.

This is what I'm considering:
1-8 Test E 400mg (split mon & thur)
1-6 Masteron 300mg E3D
1-8 HCGen

Now what would be a great PCT for this cycle??

Dude my bro been working out 6 month and he's already benching that weight lol train more intense till failure.

 

[Matthersby]

At your height and bf, 210 would still be on the light side for a natural bodybuilder. Once 180 is a 15 rep warm-up set for you, come back with a cycle layout and a pct that you came up with by reading/researching. Try looking at your diet and training, trust me it will help.

 

[RacaTwister]

At your height and bf, 210 would still be on the light side for a natural bodybuilder. Once 180 is a 15 rep warm-up set for you, come back with a cycle layout and a pct that you came up with by reading/researching. Try looking at your diet and training, trust me it will help.

Yes I know it pretty light. But I'm often doing a tad lighter even if I know I could do more just because I want to minimize risk of injury and because I prefer to workout alone so I don't have a spotter most times etc, some exercises I do heavier some I do lighter, but that's just me.

For example Cable Tricep Extentions I do between 45-50kg which I rarely see guys my size or slightly bigger do. But most often I prefer to do little bit less weight/more reps.