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Giving up the needle

freag33

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I'm done with the juice + the up/down of cycles. I'm really not an experienced user, but 5 cycles of watching my weight go up and then gradually down over time (yes, diet + PCT was fine) has convinced me that my genetics are trying to tell me something - I'm not supposed to be 200 + ripped. At first I tried looking for the secret combo (tried var/primo/sust/eq/winny over the years) and thought maybe proper PCT was the key- but that only ever bought me a few more months before gains went away.

It costs too much money and effort to cycle continuously (eg 8 weeks on, 8 weeks off), which for me is the only way I would be able to maintain the majority of my gains. I don't want to risk long term health with a semi-continuous stream of drugs in my system - as far as I'm concerned, to have this stuff in me even only 30% of the year, year after year, is too much long term. Sure was fun while it lasted though.

I'm going to try to convince myself I'm happy looking lean. It's the only sustainable way that I can see, anything else is fighting nature, which can only ever last until the drugs wear off.

Anyone else have the same experience as me? If so, I guess you're probably not browsing this board.
 
I hear ya bro. I've only done 2 cycles myself and getting ready to start my 3rd. I have also come to the realization of what you have, the up and down of cycles. But, unlike most pros and amateurs and bro's on this board, my goal was never to be huge, or even 30 pounds over my natural weight. I'm a small guy by stature - i'm 5' 8, and my natural weight without working out is about 140. I've always been skinny until I started working out (actually i was 128lbs when i first started working out). I went from 128 to 150 lbs naturally and could bench press 275. Now that I'm using, I'm weighing in anywhere from 163 to 172 at my most and benching 315 and repping out everything else with the greatest of ease.

Now that i'm off, 5 1/2 weeks, i'm back to 163, but i'm noticing that i'm holding a little more than i did the last cycle. So, with that being said, You gain alot, lose alot and keep a little with diet and excercise - repeat - repeat - repeat and now your broke! lol.. j/j..

It is fun using the gear and watching your body transform. I think once I get my bf low enough around 6-8 %, I'd be happy - i just want to look lean and cut. I'm in my early 30's (33) and I guess this is the time where I can probably peak before it all goes down hill after I'm 40.

My genetics suck, but that's what God gave me and thus, I have to live with it like you have made the choice...but atleast when we look back on it, we can say "I sure did have fun while doing it! " And I guess that's what really matters in the long run!
 
Gosh i sure hope none of this happens to me!

Who am i kiddin, damn steroids. Gosh wheres the post-steroid helper that is just like a multivitamin, makes sure you keep all your gains, costs 10 cents a pop, and has no negative effects on the body? C'mon maybe Utler has it and is jsut not telling us or all the other gurus. There sittin on there computers weighing 240lbs at 5% and laughing at our post cycle loses!

haha funny...... :(
 
freag33 said:
I'm done with the juice + the up/down of cycles. I'm really not an experienced user, but 5 cycles of watching my weight go up and then gradually down over time
thats why i don't cycle anymore but stay on year round 4ever. Its easier in Europe though, gear is much cheaper, more easy to come by and legal for personal use. i am 35 now, when i am 40 i will go on hrt and get my test prescribed if the black market shuts down for whatever reason.

i never understood the theory of cycling anyway, the only exception is if you want kids one day (which i don't). the body produces testosterone naturally day by day, everday, and always the same amount, why should i inject in different patterns?
 
Good luck bro it is much more difficult for some to maintain gains after cycling and the roller coster can definetly have some downs as low as the ups were high. good luck and keep lifting nothing wrong with not wanting to be on anymore you should always trust your instincts and do what you feel is right for you as an individual.
 
I don't plan on coming off for at least six more months I'll take a four week break around november december and then on again. comebacks don't come easy
 
yea i'm hearing you bro, but if it's because of the economical situations just start homebrewing bro, good stuff almost free

i'm bulking up right now on a long cycle, only time will tell if i was ment to be big and ripped :D
 
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