ghb or gbl

[HappyScrappy]

If you had the option of getting either and had access to both - the gbl in liquid form and the ghb in powder (and more expesive for equal amounts) - which would you choose?
do you need to cap the ghb? I'm far too lazy for that.

 

[HappyScrappy]

bump

 

[jakethemus]

If I was going to take G ( don't do it anymore ), I would go with the GHB.
Less liver toxic than GBL which converts to GHB in the liver.
Also no need to cap the GHB, just take it in powder form.

 

[crashbarrier]

ghb for sure.Better high and sleep.Dont reccomend with d-bol if you have the salty stuff i.e noit k ghb as it can contribute to water retention and enema-use it dont abuse it.peace.

 

[solidspine]

Neither

 

[solidspine]

It is too easy to overdose and OD if your trying to get high and you can take Trazadone if you are trying to sleep.

 

[HappyScrappy]

I'm not trying to get high off of it - and I've use trazadone before, but it can get addictive and when you try to come off of it after prolonged use it has some really nasty side effects. although it has some cool regular side efects like permanent erection.

I just want to use the stuff to get better sleep. I'm always tired and want to sleep all the time, and even if I sleep 15 hours, I'm still tired. I was hoping the problem was just not enough quality sleep and this would help me hit that.

 

[IamTHEman]

smoke a blunt, have a protein shake, and SWEET DREAMS (never falls)

ONE

 

[Suspension]

If I was going to take G ( don't do it anymore ), I would go with the GHB.
Less liver toxic than GBL which converts to GHB in the liver.
Also no need to cap the GHB, just take it in powder form.

So, ummm, how do you know that GbL is more toxic to the liver than GHB? GBL converts to GHB through an unknown mechanism, so how do you know its moer stressful on the liver, hmmmmm???

 

[Digital Ronin]

If you're looking to catch up on sleep grab some ambiens or some valiums and call it a night.

 

[Womb Raider]

somas are even better. you feel super when you wake up.

 

[Adaptek]

smoke a blunt, have a protein shake, and SWEET DREAMS (never falls)

ONE

Great, and get GYNO while he is at it too....

 

[MaxBiceps]

I'm with Solidspine on this one. Fuck both of them.

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

I must say - havent one the ghb caps or liquid but have lots of experience with the 1.4 butenadiol, which I like quite well (once u work out ur dosage) - just put it in the diet coke and ZZZZZZZZZZ

 

[megabump]

What is the dosage for GBL? Does anyone know what the ratio was in products like Verve and Renewtrient?

 

[Suspension]

Verve comes in 2 strengths, 3.0g/oz, and 5.0g/oz.

 

[bilpax]

????

Can you buy renewtrient anywhere ??

 

[bookie]

verve 5.0 is good shit!!

 

[CHAOS5000]

I believe 1,4 BD is the one that's liver toxic. From what I've read it's impossible for GBL to exist in your bloodstream without being immediately converted to GHB.

 

[CYCLEON]

1.4 is definitely hard on the liver - I used to take GBL all the time and never had a problem with it tho - Id recommend the GBL for sleep, It will last longer - the GHB will only give u 3-4 hrs.

 

[oldbiker]

Generally speaking 1cc of 1,4 BDO is = to 1g of GHB. Though BDO is slightly more liver toxic then GHB, the diffrence is kinda moot. The amount you would need to do to hurt your liver would kill you anyway. If done in low doses, toxicity isn't the problem but addiction is. In case anybody cares, I'm a chemist.

ob

 

[CHAOS5000]

i only get 3-4 hours on GBL too though. 1,4 BD definately put me down the longest, but I'd feel like crap the next day usually.