Gh

[GH Head]

I am not a newbie or an inexperienced user. I've been juicing for over 10 yrs now and just need some advice. I have been taking GH now for nearly 6 months straight. About 4-6iu's a day. I don't seem to be improving anymore and I don't know why I'm still doing it - I look great (to me) about 6'0 210 and in the 4-5% bodyfat range. I don't really want to be any bigger but I'm wondering if I'm harming myself by staying on GH for a prolonged period of time. Besides the fact that I have easy access to it and can afford it - am I wasting my time and money past a certain point? I don't notice any ill effects my head looks normal, my feet haven't grown, I think my eyesight might have gotten worse (is this possible?) or maybe its just due to age (30) and I seem to be thirsty alot. (Diabetes onset or is it just hot and I'm dehydrated)
I definetely can say that it doesn't work up until the 3rd or 4th kit and then u really start noticing "hey something is different here" then like I said before - I seem to have plateaued - do I take more? or stop.

 

[hardrock]

Bump

 

[Nathan]

I'm sorry I can't really help you with your questions. If you don't midn though I'd like to ask you if you have tried GH while off cycle and how you liked it? Did you continue to lose fat? Were you able to grow at all or did it help you maintain gains from a cycle at least? What bf were you at when you started the gh?

 

[lwgy]

if you are not gaining anymore right now, and your happy with your body....then why would you want to increase your dosage? i can understand increasing your dosage if you are not happy, or if you have a particular goal in mind. but i dont think its a good idea to stay on, just for the sake of staying on.

it is undercertain whether long term use of exg. hgh will have any long term effects on your natural hgh production. i wouldnt risk it, if your happy with what you have now.

 

[GH Head]

Nathan - to answer your question - no I haven't tried it without AS. I change dramatically from when I start to when I finish. I have done the same thing for the past 3 yrs. and it works great. I start my cycles in Jan. and the Gh I start with Test and Deca and gradually switch to less test and then switch the other drugs month to month EQ to Fina Dbol to WV tabs and just keep switching - won't take water base anymore due to too many abcess' so WV inject is out. Too bad though it works great with GH. I also take 25 mg proviron and used to take antiestrogens and no longer believe I need them - 1 121/2 mg of Cytomel up to 25 mcgs and then back down to 121/2. I keep the Cytomel going the whole time. Believe me it isn't the deadly drug everyone thinks - you crash much harder off clen. Keep the doses low and your OK - I've taken it for as long as a year with no side effects. Many people are fooled into thinking it works immediately it doesn't it's gradual, however I do believe the more you take the better it works. I started at 4iu and went to 9iu for a month - during that month I lost about 7 lbs and looked 20 pounds heavier. I went back down to 6 iu 4, 5th 6th month - Your whole body changes - it just looks different - rounder, fuller and you can eat 100 calories a day and stay the same weight. Its pretty amazing stuff when done right. One more thing - I added Clen the past month and holy shit whatever little fat I had left - toast. I had veins in my abs ripped as can be. Prob. 3-4% BF. Lost 5lbs more in weight and looked better! Went off after one month gained 5 lbs back in one week! and look and feel softer. I HATE CLEN I HAVE DONE THIS TO MYSELF A HUNDRED TIMES _ NEVER AGAIN. The reason I stay on is simply because - I can. I have access to it - so i do it.

 

[Thrower74]

What dose do you run the T3 at while on HGH? And do you tapper up and down.

 

[Nathan]

Nathan - to answer your question - no I haven't tried it without AS. I change dramatically from when I start to when I finish. I have done the same thing for the past 3 yrs. and it works great. I start my cycles in Jan. and the Gh I start with Test and Deca and gradually switch to less test and then switch the other drugs month to month EQ to Fina Dbol to WV tabs and just keep switching - won't take water base anymore due to too many abcess' so WV inject is out. Too bad though it works great with GH. I also take 25 mg proviron and used to take antiestrogens and no longer believe I need them - 1 121/2 mg of Cytomel up to 25 mcgs and then back down to 121/2. I keep the Cytomel going the whole time. Believe me it isn't the deadly drug everyone thinks - you crash much harder off clen. Keep the doses low and your OK - I've taken it for as long as a year with no side effects. Many people are fooled into thinking it works immediately it doesn't it's gradual, however I do believe the more you take the better it works. I started at 4iu and went to 9iu for a month - during that month I lost about 7 lbs and looked 20 pounds heavier. I went back down to 6 iu 4, 5th 6th month - Your whole body changes - it just looks different - rounder, fuller and you can eat 100 calories a day and stay the same weight. Its pretty amazing stuff when done right. One more thing - I added Clen the past month and holy shit whatever little fat I had left - toast. I had veins in my abs ripped as can be. Prob. 3-4% BF. Lost 5lbs more in weight and looked better! Went off after one month gained 5 lbs back in one week! and look and feel softer. I HATE CLEN I HAVE DONE THIS TO MYSELF A HUNDRED TIMES _ NEVER AGAIN. The reason I stay on is simply because - I can. I have access to it - so i do it.

Thanks very much bro for taking the time to write that. I'm still really surious how it works whithout gear - I'd like to lean down some more coming off and at least keep size and strength but gaining some more would be nice too. Maybe with slin? Maybe a d-bol bridge in teh am with it?

 

[GH Head]

THrower - I start at 12 1/2 mcg. for the first month - When I tighten up my diet 2nd or 3rd month and switch to less androgenic drugs I increase to 25mcg. then to 50 for only like 2 weeks. then back down to 25 and then to 12 !/2 for the rest. I don't mess with high doses of T3 - then you're asking for trouble. you can stay on low doses for extended periods of time.