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TeamZ said:
Please don't use my reply as 100% fact as I am preparing to go on gh myself.
But it seems the consensus is 2iu a day, 5days on/2 off for fat loss..
Some have good results w/ 2iu a day and some 4iu. Probably depends
on how one's body reacts to gh.
Once again, never tried it but soon will. Searching will help find some answers.
NYBodyguard
New member
ive seen some people lose alot of fat within 2 months of doing 2iu a day 7 days a week
im doing 6ius a day now trying to see if it will help me gain some mass here
i havent put on any serious mass in a long time dont know whats up
im doing 6ius a day now trying to see if it will help me gain some mass here
i havent put on any serious mass in a long time dont know whats up
GH is awesome! I received a spiral fracture of my humerus and I took GH to aid with the healing process. I took 2iu's a day for about 5 monthts because of all the awesome benefits of that stuff...and at the time I was interested in the fact that it aided with bone density. I researched the hell out of it and learned a lot. My only advice for ya bro is if your using it for fat loss i'd say the minimum to use is 2iu's a day 7 days a week. Try splitting dosages between morning and night. I found that I felt better throughout the day when I began to split my dosages. Drop me a pm and give me your e-mail addy. I have some awesome reads on GH that are pretty informative. Good luck..
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bigmark1515
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But do people see results at only 2ius/day?
NYBodyguard
New member
myself and friends yes fat loss results, muscle gain results NObigmark1515 said:
my bad...I forgot my point on that last post! When I was taking 2iu's ED in the morning I really didn't notice any difference...but when I split the dosages I felt a hell of a lot better and noticed that I was losing some body fat even though I wasn't really on a strict diet. I liked the result so I started eating pretty clean....this seemed to be when I really started noticing that i was losing body fat. It wasn't anything like the fat loss on a Fina/Winny/Clen combo....but for what I was using it for and at such a low dosage I was happy with the results.
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bigmark1515
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How about w/ 4?NYBodyguard said:
Hey guys....I found this awhile back from Redspy...a mod on the musclechat board. its good info and from all of my research on GH all of it is pretty legit. Hope this helps...its some pretty damn good info!
HGH FAQ
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
by Death on the field.
This is an article on GH i have been working on, it takes all
the advice from the top vets on GH and has been thoroughly
checked and also provides citings so u can look at the info
and studies urself if u want. this was made to benefit all who
are looking into starting GH or need basic info on it.
Rating: (1 being the lowest, 5 being the highest)
Strength-4
Weight Gain-4
Fat Loss-4
Side Effects-2
Keep Gains--4
Side Effects:
Hypoglycemia- due to lowered insulin levels.
Aromeglia- (abnormal bone growth) GH does not cause it, but if
you are predisposed to it, it will speed it up.
GH gut- if predisposed and taking large doses of GH
Carpel Tunnel Syndrome
Soreness in Joints
Benefits of GH:
New Muscle Cells
Mood Enhancement
Smoothing and improving the skin
Leanness, it is a potent fat burner
Joint and ligament strengthening
Where to Inject, How, and How to Make:
You can site inject anywhere you can reach the subcutaneous
layer. Pinch the flesh and pull back, then insert the needle
in the "pocket" underneath. Doesn't absorb quick enough if you
inject into the adipose tissue. Do not inject intra-muscular,
though it can be done, it is not recommended. GH is a site
injection, where it is shot is where it will burn the most
noticeable fat. Most people do it in the stomach since that is
a typical sub q shot with most of the fat being in that area.
GH should be kept in a fridge; freezing will destroy the GH.
On your kit it probably says to use the kit in 18-24 hours,
remember these are for AIDS patients, not bodybuilders or
athletes. Mixing the GH can either be done with sterile water
or bacteriostic water. The kit with water will be fine for 3
days in the fridge, even with the sterile water, but you
should not take this chance, rather you should use
bacteriostic water and play it safe. This will keep it fine
for a couple of weeks. When mixing the GH, let the water slide
down the side as to not pulverize the GH wafer. Do not spray
it directly against the wafer with any force. Before
reconstitution and even after GH is fragile!!! Also once the
water is injected into the bottle gently swirl the vial to
reconstitute, do not shake or swirl violently!!!!
Conversions:
1 ml = 1 cc -/+
100 units per 1 cc
6 mg = 18iu
1 ml = 18iu
.50 ml = 9iu
.25 ml = 4.5iu
Some people choose to only do it in cc’s but here is how you
can do it in units on a slin dart
5.5 = 1iu, so 2iu = 11 on a slin dart
Differences Between Kits:
The main difference between kits is how many iu’s they make
when reconstituted. For example, Serostim re-constitutes to
make 126iu, while a Saizen kit.... also made by Serono....
makes up 15iu. Another of their kits makes 54iu. It better be
way cheaper than a Serostim kit! Humatrope is fine, but costs
too much. The other main concern would be fakes; Lilly is the
most often faked one. Some older GH kits do not have holograms on them and are legit, but they are usually only less than 100
dollars than new GH kits with holograms, and I would rather be
assured of the hologram and legitimacy of the kit. Best buy
currently is Serostim 126 iu kits. These are made for people
with wasting diseases like AIDs. Many of these patients got
infected because they are IV drug addicts..........they sell
the Serostim on the street for drug money.
Dose:
4 to 6 iu ed is sufficient. Most people take it 5 days on 2
days off at their designated dosage. There is no reason or
evidence why you cannot stay on for various lengths of time;
there is no need to go 5 on 2 off other than cost. Considering
that our natural production is only .5 to 1.5iu a day, this is
still a huge bump for the body. Research has shown that the
body's natural defense systems render mega doses of GH
ineffective, anyway. GH does not cause gains in mass...it
allows you to put on a great deal of lean mass in combination
with proper steroid and insulin use. The user before taking
must know this. One or two kits are not enough, you need at
least 3 to make you happy, GH takes a while to make its
effects, but remember they are long lasting, what you see is
what you keep. It takes 6 to 8 weeks to notice a dramatic
change in body comp using GH on an ED or 5/2 split. Lighter
doses for long periods of time are better than large doses for
short cycles. Like any other drug, the more you take the more
the benefits, but likewise also more risks. 4-6 iu is a
standard dose but many people take more, the most repulsing
side effects happen at or beyond 12 iu a day but like anything
else it depends on your predisposition for it.
How to Stack:
GH is best taken in conjunction with insulin, anabolic
steroids, and t3. Insulin is extremely effective with GH, as
anyone here who has tried it will testify. This is because GH
injections cause a down regulation of insulin sensitivity in
the body.
GH alone causes little growth of lean mass, however, when
combined with insulin and steroids (and IGF-1 if you can find
it), the results can be down right remarkable...esp. in the
older bodybuilder. Start light with the humulin...5iu...and
work up 1 iu a day till you get use to it. 7 to 10iu in the AM
and 7 to 10 iu in the late afternoon, with split doses of GH
is your best bet. When splitting GH/insulin doses, I use
mid-morning and late afternoon after lifting.... both flat
times in our natural GH production. The insulin overcomes the
insulin-resistance caused by exogenous GH supplementation. If
you are scared to take insulin thought, then Gh with Test and
Glucophage is good. GH is good for cutting if used alone.
Glucophage allows for improved glucose and amino acid
absorption by the muscle tissue and does it safely. This is
what you want. The half-life of GH is only 2 hours so spread
it out. Avoid bedtime injections since we produce the bulk of
our own GH in the first two hours of sleep. Since exogenous GH
suppresses this, you should not take it before bed. For best
results, use a 17aa oral during the cycle to stimulate the
release of natural insulin growth factors. I would run the
test throughout. GH/insulin/test is the proven synergistic
combination.
It is also wise to preload with testosterone before starting
GH if you are going to do it. You should preload with the
amount of time it takes for that testosterone to kick in,
since most of us take longer acting esters for testosterone
you should usually start taking the test 2 weeks before GH
use. Likewise, you can accommodate it to fit your needs; the
key is for the test to be kicking in the same time you are
starting to run your GH. You can cycle you steroids however
you want to depending on your goals, if you are going for a
more massive look than you would run insulin for most of the
cycle and use high androgens, but if you are looking for
additional leanness at the end of a cycle you should stop the
androgens and run a higher dose of GH or run less androgens.
T3 is also another substance that should be used during GH
cycling since GH lowers thyroid hormones. T3 should be used
for shorter periods though, because it can permanently alter
the endocrine system. The magic of GH for men is the ability
to gain mass without fat or bloating when stacked properly
with insulin, and steroids. GH also makes for amazing
improvements in skin...smoothes wrinkles, burns stubborn spots
of adipose tissue, gives that paper-thin contest look...and
also gives one a real mood lift, a feeling of well being.
Major Difference Between GH and Steroids:
Steroids can increase the size of your muscle cells, but
cannot I repeat CAN NOT increase the number of muscle cells in
your body, which to start with is governed by your genetics.
However Growth hormone CAN increase the number of muscle cells
in your body, which goes beyond genetics.
Half-Life of GH:
Exogenous (injected) GH has a "half-life" of approximately 2
hours . . . a 4-hour period of activity during which there is
a suppression of naturally produced GH.
GH Naturally Produced:
We release the most of our naturally produced GH during the
first two hours of deep sleep...you may take a little time to
adjust.... your body thinks you should be in bed when that big
influx hits. It is good to take a nap, that’s when you grow
anyway. It always helps to take naps after workouts and
injections everyday.
GH Causing Acromeglia:
Acromeglia is a disease...you either have it or you don't.
Supplementing GH will not cause it. Persons suffering from
acromeglia, like Andre the Giant, lack the natural defense
mechanisms of the body to regulate the production and effects
of GH secretion in he pituitary. It is well established in the
medical literature that exogenous GH will not cause the
disease.... of course it would worsen the condition in those
who had it.
GH Gut: Myth or Reality?:
Some researchers claim that any gains in weight experienced by
subjects using GH alone was due to growth of internal organs
and connective tissue, which could cause some problems. Most
studies do not agree with this theory and consider "GH gut" to
be a myth. Some people are allergic to synthetic test, this is
something you have to find out for yourself. Some people also
feel intestinal discomfort from time to time, if so take it
down to one item at a time to see what is causing you
discomfort; creatine, glutamine, protein products, orals, and
dirty gear have all been known to cause this, so find the
problem early.
GH and IGF-1:
Perhaps the most relevant effect of IGF-1 is the ability of
IGF-1 to increase protein synthesis by increasing cellular
mRNA formation (mRNA makes protein) as well as increasing
uptake of amino acids. This effect on protein synthesis can
lead to increased lean mass. The research indicates that this
effect is dependent on GH presence as well. So IGF-1 alone
does not promote such effects. Nor does GH. It appears the
combination of the two most consistently lead to increased
protein synthesis.
GH and IGF-1 are negative regulators of GH release so an
increase in either (from a GH injection) reduces the secretion
of GH. IGF-1 is very difficult to obtain in a useable
condition.... it must be handled very gently and have bee kept
at a rather precise temperature at all times. One can
stimulate IGF production through the use of an oral steroid
during cycle. Dbol, for example, causes a rather extensive
release of IGF during the first pass through the liver.
The leading studies in this area: (Ney, 1999, Yarasheski,
1994.... Am J. App. Phys.)
In the Yarasheski study, no increase in lean muscle mass was
noticed in the subjects using GH alone, but significant gains
were found in subjects that supplemented with IGF and GH...add
in the steroids and look out! Yarasheski studied weight
trained athletes, supplementing one group with GH alone, and
one group with GH and IGF. "So IGF-1 alone does not promote
such effects. (Leanness and increased lean mass) Nor does GH.
It appears the combination of the two most consistently lead
to increased protein synthesis." Both seem to negatively
downregulate the other over time, so as to lead to diminishing
returns. Cycling would be in order for that reason. Also
supplementing both is necessary because one or the other alone
will suppress the natural production of the non-supplemented
Latest study by Yarashevski - with GH alone...8 to 12% change
in lean body composition. 6% increase in muscle mass.
HGH FAQ
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
by Death on the field.
This is an article on GH i have been working on, it takes all
the advice from the top vets on GH and has been thoroughly
checked and also provides citings so u can look at the info
and studies urself if u want. this was made to benefit all who
are looking into starting GH or need basic info on it.
Rating: (1 being the lowest, 5 being the highest)
Strength-4
Weight Gain-4
Fat Loss-4
Side Effects-2
Keep Gains--4
Side Effects:
Hypoglycemia- due to lowered insulin levels.
Aromeglia- (abnormal bone growth) GH does not cause it, but if
you are predisposed to it, it will speed it up.
GH gut- if predisposed and taking large doses of GH
Carpel Tunnel Syndrome
Soreness in Joints
Benefits of GH:
New Muscle Cells
Mood Enhancement
Smoothing and improving the skin
Leanness, it is a potent fat burner
Joint and ligament strengthening
Where to Inject, How, and How to Make:
You can site inject anywhere you can reach the subcutaneous
layer. Pinch the flesh and pull back, then insert the needle
in the "pocket" underneath. Doesn't absorb quick enough if you
inject into the adipose tissue. Do not inject intra-muscular,
though it can be done, it is not recommended. GH is a site
injection, where it is shot is where it will burn the most
noticeable fat. Most people do it in the stomach since that is
a typical sub q shot with most of the fat being in that area.
GH should be kept in a fridge; freezing will destroy the GH.
On your kit it probably says to use the kit in 18-24 hours,
remember these are for AIDS patients, not bodybuilders or
athletes. Mixing the GH can either be done with sterile water
or bacteriostic water. The kit with water will be fine for 3
days in the fridge, even with the sterile water, but you
should not take this chance, rather you should use
bacteriostic water and play it safe. This will keep it fine
for a couple of weeks. When mixing the GH, let the water slide
down the side as to not pulverize the GH wafer. Do not spray
it directly against the wafer with any force. Before
reconstitution and even after GH is fragile!!! Also once the
water is injected into the bottle gently swirl the vial to
reconstitute, do not shake or swirl violently!!!!
Conversions:
1 ml = 1 cc -/+
100 units per 1 cc
6 mg = 18iu
1 ml = 18iu
.50 ml = 9iu
.25 ml = 4.5iu
Some people choose to only do it in cc’s but here is how you
can do it in units on a slin dart
5.5 = 1iu, so 2iu = 11 on a slin dart
Differences Between Kits:
The main difference between kits is how many iu’s they make
when reconstituted. For example, Serostim re-constitutes to
make 126iu, while a Saizen kit.... also made by Serono....
makes up 15iu. Another of their kits makes 54iu. It better be
way cheaper than a Serostim kit! Humatrope is fine, but costs
too much. The other main concern would be fakes; Lilly is the
most often faked one. Some older GH kits do not have holograms on them and are legit, but they are usually only less than 100
dollars than new GH kits with holograms, and I would rather be
assured of the hologram and legitimacy of the kit. Best buy
currently is Serostim 126 iu kits. These are made for people
with wasting diseases like AIDs. Many of these patients got
infected because they are IV drug addicts..........they sell
the Serostim on the street for drug money.
Dose:
4 to 6 iu ed is sufficient. Most people take it 5 days on 2
days off at their designated dosage. There is no reason or
evidence why you cannot stay on for various lengths of time;
there is no need to go 5 on 2 off other than cost. Considering
that our natural production is only .5 to 1.5iu a day, this is
still a huge bump for the body. Research has shown that the
body's natural defense systems render mega doses of GH
ineffective, anyway. GH does not cause gains in mass...it
allows you to put on a great deal of lean mass in combination
with proper steroid and insulin use. The user before taking
must know this. One or two kits are not enough, you need at
least 3 to make you happy, GH takes a while to make its
effects, but remember they are long lasting, what you see is
what you keep. It takes 6 to 8 weeks to notice a dramatic
change in body comp using GH on an ED or 5/2 split. Lighter
doses for long periods of time are better than large doses for
short cycles. Like any other drug, the more you take the more
the benefits, but likewise also more risks. 4-6 iu is a
standard dose but many people take more, the most repulsing
side effects happen at or beyond 12 iu a day but like anything
else it depends on your predisposition for it.
How to Stack:
GH is best taken in conjunction with insulin, anabolic
steroids, and t3. Insulin is extremely effective with GH, as
anyone here who has tried it will testify. This is because GH
injections cause a down regulation of insulin sensitivity in
the body.
GH alone causes little growth of lean mass, however, when
combined with insulin and steroids (and IGF-1 if you can find
it), the results can be down right remarkable...esp. in the
older bodybuilder. Start light with the humulin...5iu...and
work up 1 iu a day till you get use to it. 7 to 10iu in the AM
and 7 to 10 iu in the late afternoon, with split doses of GH
is your best bet. When splitting GH/insulin doses, I use
mid-morning and late afternoon after lifting.... both flat
times in our natural GH production. The insulin overcomes the
insulin-resistance caused by exogenous GH supplementation. If
you are scared to take insulin thought, then Gh with Test and
Glucophage is good. GH is good for cutting if used alone.
Glucophage allows for improved glucose and amino acid
absorption by the muscle tissue and does it safely. This is
what you want. The half-life of GH is only 2 hours so spread
it out. Avoid bedtime injections since we produce the bulk of
our own GH in the first two hours of sleep. Since exogenous GH
suppresses this, you should not take it before bed. For best
results, use a 17aa oral during the cycle to stimulate the
release of natural insulin growth factors. I would run the
test throughout. GH/insulin/test is the proven synergistic
combination.
It is also wise to preload with testosterone before starting
GH if you are going to do it. You should preload with the
amount of time it takes for that testosterone to kick in,
since most of us take longer acting esters for testosterone
you should usually start taking the test 2 weeks before GH
use. Likewise, you can accommodate it to fit your needs; the
key is for the test to be kicking in the same time you are
starting to run your GH. You can cycle you steroids however
you want to depending on your goals, if you are going for a
more massive look than you would run insulin for most of the
cycle and use high androgens, but if you are looking for
additional leanness at the end of a cycle you should stop the
androgens and run a higher dose of GH or run less androgens.
T3 is also another substance that should be used during GH
cycling since GH lowers thyroid hormones. T3 should be used
for shorter periods though, because it can permanently alter
the endocrine system. The magic of GH for men is the ability
to gain mass without fat or bloating when stacked properly
with insulin, and steroids. GH also makes for amazing
improvements in skin...smoothes wrinkles, burns stubborn spots
of adipose tissue, gives that paper-thin contest look...and
also gives one a real mood lift, a feeling of well being.
Major Difference Between GH and Steroids:
Steroids can increase the size of your muscle cells, but
cannot I repeat CAN NOT increase the number of muscle cells in
your body, which to start with is governed by your genetics.
However Growth hormone CAN increase the number of muscle cells
in your body, which goes beyond genetics.
Half-Life of GH:
Exogenous (injected) GH has a "half-life" of approximately 2
hours . . . a 4-hour period of activity during which there is
a suppression of naturally produced GH.
GH Naturally Produced:
We release the most of our naturally produced GH during the
first two hours of deep sleep...you may take a little time to
adjust.... your body thinks you should be in bed when that big
influx hits. It is good to take a nap, that’s when you grow
anyway. It always helps to take naps after workouts and
injections everyday.
GH Causing Acromeglia:
Acromeglia is a disease...you either have it or you don't.
Supplementing GH will not cause it. Persons suffering from
acromeglia, like Andre the Giant, lack the natural defense
mechanisms of the body to regulate the production and effects
of GH secretion in he pituitary. It is well established in the
medical literature that exogenous GH will not cause the
disease.... of course it would worsen the condition in those
who had it.
GH Gut: Myth or Reality?:
Some researchers claim that any gains in weight experienced by
subjects using GH alone was due to growth of internal organs
and connective tissue, which could cause some problems. Most
studies do not agree with this theory and consider "GH gut" to
be a myth. Some people are allergic to synthetic test, this is
something you have to find out for yourself. Some people also
feel intestinal discomfort from time to time, if so take it
down to one item at a time to see what is causing you
discomfort; creatine, glutamine, protein products, orals, and
dirty gear have all been known to cause this, so find the
problem early.
GH and IGF-1:
Perhaps the most relevant effect of IGF-1 is the ability of
IGF-1 to increase protein synthesis by increasing cellular
mRNA formation (mRNA makes protein) as well as increasing
uptake of amino acids. This effect on protein synthesis can
lead to increased lean mass. The research indicates that this
effect is dependent on GH presence as well. So IGF-1 alone
does not promote such effects. Nor does GH. It appears the
combination of the two most consistently lead to increased
protein synthesis.
GH and IGF-1 are negative regulators of GH release so an
increase in either (from a GH injection) reduces the secretion
of GH. IGF-1 is very difficult to obtain in a useable
condition.... it must be handled very gently and have bee kept
at a rather precise temperature at all times. One can
stimulate IGF production through the use of an oral steroid
during cycle. Dbol, for example, causes a rather extensive
release of IGF during the first pass through the liver.
The leading studies in this area: (Ney, 1999, Yarasheski,
1994.... Am J. App. Phys.)
In the Yarasheski study, no increase in lean muscle mass was
noticed in the subjects using GH alone, but significant gains
were found in subjects that supplemented with IGF and GH...add
in the steroids and look out! Yarasheski studied weight
trained athletes, supplementing one group with GH alone, and
one group with GH and IGF. "So IGF-1 alone does not promote
such effects. (Leanness and increased lean mass) Nor does GH.
It appears the combination of the two most consistently lead
to increased protein synthesis." Both seem to negatively
downregulate the other over time, so as to lead to diminishing
returns. Cycling would be in order for that reason. Also
supplementing both is necessary because one or the other alone
will suppress the natural production of the non-supplemented
Latest study by Yarashevski - with GH alone...8 to 12% change
in lean body composition. 6% increase in muscle mass.
vandelman said:
Hey Vandelman,
Did you get a doc to prescribe the gh or did you use other sources?
My endo doc denied me on the gh. Kind of frustrated because I have real symtoms that I think can benifit from gh.
I had a dislocated shoulder, a knee that has sustained 4 hard injuries throughout the years (last one was the worst), osteopinia, and low test scores. Anyways, I'll stop ranting. Trying to decide if I should go to another doc, or just go ug?
I went the UG route instead of going through a doc. I thought about it, but after looking at the prices of most docs for GH prescriptions I thought i'd be a fool if I didn't go the UG route. I've heard of a few bros getting fake kits from a few sources...which totally sucks...so thats the biggest thing you have to worry about. Also you have to worry about how your source stored the GH...and if the kit you are ordering is past it's exp. date. That would suck to order a kit from somebody only to find out when you open your package that its been expired for awhile. The up end of going through another doc is knowing that what you get will definetly be legit and i'd be sure that the doc. followed the correct procedures for storing it. If you got a good source who you trust....i'd go UG...I did and things worked out for me.
Damn bro....sounds like you could really benefit from GH.....not just for the mass gains that some bros look for, but in your case overall health would be your best bet.
Damn bro....sounds like you could really benefit from GH.....not just for the mass gains that some bros look for, but in your case overall health would be your best bet.
vandelman said:
Hey Thanks for the reply. I'm tired of trying to convince m doc I need gh or aas. When I was diagnosed with osteopinia, he put me on fosomax and did some bone density tests for a baseline. The fosomax didn't do squat so after reading the EF forum and some research, I learned deca could help combat bone loss. So I experimented on myself and took moderate doses of deca for 12 weeks. Came back to the endo with a new bone density test and he was REALLY CONFUSED!!... He said in his 30yrs of practice he's never seen an increase in bone density growth this fast. I was like "cough..cough...maybe the fosomax really worked..." He gave me a look like no friken way dumbass. He was assured the test was in error. I was too chicken to tell him I did a cycle of deca, as he is my familys doc as well. I really wanted to tell him "look doc..put me on the sauce and I'll fix myself"
Anyhow, reality is I need to find a reputable source. There was a very helpful member on this board who gave me great advice. Thanks if your reading this. But its kind of nerve racking when your trying to get help and not get scammed. It's not like loosing out on some AAS it's at least 6months worth of gh..That equals, grab your ankles and take it dry
if you get scammed. Thanks again for your repy.
Thanks for all the info!! Now I just have to plan my cycle and training!
Any sugustions would be great.
here's a little background
I'm 40, I have trained most of my life(allot longer than I haven't) I was a competitive bodybuilder through the mid 90's after far too many injuries, I had to stop competing, I've tore both tricepts,(partial tears) complete tear of my achelies, compression fractures of T7 through T11 from powerlifting, and just a ton of general aches and pains do to the abuse I put my body through with years of extream heavy lifting. I've taken the last 3 years off of training to start my business, I finaly got back into the gym 7 weeks ago when I started I was 242lbs at 18.5% bodyfat now I am 252 at 12% yes my doctor prescribes test for HRT, I'm taking 200mg a week and training 3 days with weights and 3 days of cardio, I feel good except for the little nagging aches, from the injuries, I want to run the GH to help that and to loose the love handles, my body has responded well to the lighter weights and less training, I would just like to look and feel about 10 years younger, any sugustions would be great! Thanks in advance!
Any sugustions would be great.
here's a little background
I'm 40, I have trained most of my life(allot longer than I haven't) I was a competitive bodybuilder through the mid 90's after far too many injuries, I had to stop competing, I've tore both tricepts,(partial tears) complete tear of my achelies, compression fractures of T7 through T11 from powerlifting, and just a ton of general aches and pains do to the abuse I put my body through with years of extream heavy lifting. I've taken the last 3 years off of training to start my business, I finaly got back into the gym 7 weeks ago when I started I was 242lbs at 18.5% bodyfat now I am 252 at 12% yes my doctor prescribes test for HRT, I'm taking 200mg a week and training 3 days with weights and 3 days of cardio, I feel good except for the little nagging aches, from the injuries, I want to run the GH to help that and to loose the love handles, my body has responded well to the lighter weights and less training, I would just like to look and feel about 10 years younger, any sugustions would be great! Thanks in advance!
Quiltie
New member
It might be just me, but that GH article above seems pretty old. It looks similar to the 'Big Cat' GH profile, which is pretty dated. Here is what seems to be a more accurate article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatotropin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatotropin
nsashbl01
New member
In my experience. GH will help the already lean bro's at as low as 2iu. 4iu is way better imo. At 2iu I can stay lean, but still eat pretty clean. At 4iu I can eat whatever I want, (still clean compared to many bro's) and I stay around 8%. I can't stay at 4iu year round though. Wrists get pretty bad.
Just be sure to keep your blood sugar low and if you go with higher doses, ramp slowly. Stay on 7 days also...
Just be sure to keep your blood sugar low and if you go with higher doses, ramp slowly. Stay on 7 days also...
