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GH is killing me!!!

alltraps said:
i have been on gh for 5 weeks now, started at 2-iu and now am at 5. since about the second week, i have noticed my joints getting stiffer. now, i cant do any pressing movement, as it feels like my wrists will snap off.

YOUR HGH DOSING IS TOO HIGH. YOU NEED TO TITRATE IT DOWN TO WHERE SIGNS GO AWAY. MOST DO OK BETWEEN 2 AND 4IU, 6 DAYS ON AND ONE DAY OFF.

i dont know what to do. i am also on anadrol, test and eq.. this is i think my 9th cycle, and in the first 2 weeks of the gear i have gained 29lbs. i have never gained so well, considering my last cycle was 10 weeks ago. i do think the GH has a lot to do with the gains, but i simply cant work out to my full capacity. what can i do to help with the joint pain? i am taking glucosamine, condroitan, and even 300mg of deca.
 
alltraps said:
cycle is

800mg of enenthate
600mg of eq
anadrol 100mg

i have done cycles that were double these doses, and had no problems. overall i am happy that i am growing, but i want to be able to lift the weights


100 of Anadrol and 800 of Ethen.???!!!! Be careful of you estrogen levels. As for the GH. I think the side effects your talking about are by product of them. Did you try to drop the IUs and see if the pain subsided?
 
TheRide said:



100 of Anadrol and 800 of Ethen.???!!!! Be careful of you estrogen levels. As for the GH. I think the side effects your talking about are by product of them. Did you try to drop the IUs and see if the pain subsided?


like i have said above,. i have done cycles cosisting of more then double these doses. the only difference now is the addition of GH.

and yes, i will lower my dose back to 2iu and wait to see what happens
 
Echoing what someone else replied: GH is a long haul drug if you intend to see any real lasting effects. In fact it takes at least 8-12 weeks for enough of it to build up in your system before it even begins to really have maximum effectiveness.

If you don't want to cut it out completely just cut it back to 2 IU's a day until all the side effects go away, then perhaps push it up to 3 and see what happens. Remember it's not just how much you do, it's how long you can do it for. If you can go on GH for six months straight you'll be surprised to find that many of the effects, especially the dietary fat burning, will still happen for up to six months afterwards, kind of a coasting effect.

On that note, it's definitely working if you're eating like crazy and taking in 5,000+ calories a day and not gaining weight. The first time I did GH by 12 weeks in I was eating like that and my waist was still getting smaller!

Also, in my experience any product containg creatine ceased to have any measurable effect on me, since most of them contain dextrose or a sugar to initiate an insulin response pushing the creatine into the muscle. Due to the GH effect the body's insulin response is highly subdued and I found the creatine a waste of money. In fact I've stopped taking GH just to do more test and bulk up for the winter.
 
RADAR said:
29pounds is too much for anyones frame to handle in a time span of 2 weeks-slow down before you break something!!!

RADAR
damn straight...You are luckily you have not had a serious heart-attack...I bet 25lbs of that is water retention....Please keep an eye on your blood pressure...I gained 18lbs last winter in 2 weeks from Test suspesion...I was fucking miserable
 
alltraps is my training partner, and I watched him go from 20lbs less than me, to outweighing me by 10 lbs in just a few weeks. he is holding water obviously but is still looking pretty lean, so there is obviously some decent mass gain there. there are other variables too that are affecting his gains, like the sudden change in training styles.
I am running the same jintropin gh, but I took a little longer ramping the dose up, and although my hands have been numb for a while, my wrists are okay.
Alltraps, get off the pollish clock and get to the gym when I do so we can train together...
 
Shit a thread about me:
Broke my GH virginity 4 weeks ago.
Started a 3 ius seros for 2 weeks a little tingling that was it.
2 weeks ago I hit 10 iu's log with the GH and added another dose of 3 iu's on work out days.
I have blown up like a ballon and on 1.2 grams of Test Cyp for a little while. I am so heavy and bloated now I pump up and cramp in everything I do. The scale is at 313...and I am floating.
Now the pain is unbearable and I can't sleep so I am going to cut the GH down to 1.5 ius and if that doesn't work cut it out.
My goal is to use it long term low dose to heal some injuries as my shoulder feels a lot better and back too.
I have personally seen before and after x-rays of people who have done long term therapy as my spine is compressed and neck/spine is showing some degeneration.
So we shall see....
Next time I will taper up more slowly.
 
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