GH gyno prevention...

[Roc86]

Hey fellas ... gota question for a bro here;

Guy I know is planning on running GH for rehabilitation purposes. He plans on starting out @ 2iu's a day, and as activity progresses probably work up to 4ius a day.

Ive advised him to run it for 6 months give or take to see optimal results and get the best bang for his buck.

That being said, this guy is relativley sensitive when it comes to gyno. Had a bit in puberty, and has had a little bit of problems in the past whilst fucking around with small doses or some very un-gyno characteristically AAS'.

Im assuming GH alone will not affect gyno, however even a slight underlying estrogen discrepancy/elevation could probably aggrevate things.

The only reason im asking is due to the fact ive seen a remarkably high amount of people saying their getting gyno with IGF and GH of late.

Anywho, he will ONLY be running GH, at least to begin with. Would maybe some B6 for prolactin blocking and either AIFM or some nolva on hand be a good idea.

Sorry for the long post, appreciate replies.

Roc

 

[Mr.X]

He can run .25mgs arimidex EOD just to be on the safe side...

 

[jochensa]

i am in the same boat. i got it when i hit puberty and thru out my life when i would stop and start training. i can't take anything without a blocker not even a prohormone. but i did hear that to grow you really don't want to take something that blocks almost all estrogen like arimidex is that true?

as far as the gh usually if you are getting gyno it is fake. probabaly hcg which will give results, but boost all your levels. I am taking the gh now and havent had a prob

 

[Roc86]

i am in the same boat. i got it when i hit puberty and thru out my life when i would stop and start training. i can't take anything without a blocker not even a prohormone. but i did hear that to grow you really don't want to take something that blocks almost all estrogen like arimidex is that true?

as far as the gh usually if you are getting gyno it is fake. probabaly hcg which will give results, but boost all your levels. I am taking the gh now and havent had a prob

righto ... will keep this in mind. Also my bro is taking the GH to help heal some injuries and size really isnt a factor. Hes a fighter and is already a big mother for his weight class. Hence some fat loss, and maybe so improved muscle quality is really all that hes looking for possibly as a bonus in addition to getting him back in the gym sooner.

thx bros

 

[SpyWizard]

He can run .25mgs arimidex EOD just to be on the safe side...

Good advice there..

just don't want to take your estrogen down too low, that's as bad as having too much..

arimdex will do fine..

 

[mobro]

He can run .25mgs arimidex EOD just to be on the safe side...

Would AIFM accomplish the same thing, to suppress estrogen? And does real GH elevate estrogen levels alone?

 

[Roc86]

Would 1 pump of AIFM per day suffice in place of the Adex? Macro whats your take on this?

 

[jamesG]

GH can cause gyno?

and whats AIFM?

 

[mobro]

GH can cause gyno?

and whats AIFM?

bump

 

[Kachunga]

I think certain people are more predisposed to gyno than others.
I would try the gh w/o any anti-e and if I started to notice any gyno, then take femara to knock it out and adex to keep it under control.
I only had to do this when on a gram of test/ew and it worked like a champ.
BTW AG-Guys has both of these research chems and they work great.

 

[redsamurai]

I was under the understanding that gh and igf gyno was unstoppable by common AI's......the mechanism from which it produces gyno is completely different than AAS, completely irrelevant to estro levels. IGF is a general tissue enhancer......so it causes tissue growth everywhere in the body. I have no idea about drugs that can combat this......but from a training standpoint, train your balls off and all that GH or IGF will be metabolized by the traumatized muscles and tendons that you've effected through your lifting......this will cause there to be little hormone left over to effect extraneous tissues, not just gyno tissue, but gut...heart...etc....

If you take a shitload of GH or IGF and don't train at all.......you can be assured that tissue somewhere in the body is going to metabloize that hormone.

 

[bigjd69]

AIFM should suffice

 

[Roc86]

I was under the understanding that gh and igf gyno was unstoppable by common AI's......the mechanism from which it produces gyno is completely different than AAS, completely irrelevant to estro levels. IGF is a general tissue enhancer......so it causes tissue growth everywhere in the body. I have no idea about drugs that can combat this......but from a training standpoint, train your balls off and all that GH or IGF will be metabolized by the traumatized muscles and tendons that you've effected through your lifting......this will cause there to be little hormone left over to effect extraneous tissues, not just gyno tissue, but gut...heart...etc....

If you take a shitload of GH or IGF and don't train at all.......you can be assured that tissue somewhere in the body is going to metabloize that hormone.

no doubt, good post.