GH and T4

[informed09]

how much T4 should you run while on GH? And for how long?

 

[52_21_30]

50-100 mcg daily for the duration of your GH cycle. Do not stop the T4 abruptly.

 

[kbrkbr]

I use 200mcg simply to overcome the lethargy induced by gh. Started at 50 and worked my way up.

 

[52_21_30]

Personally I haven't had the balls to try any thyroid hormones. How do you feel when on it? I know that too high of a dose too soon of course can cause a life-threatening thyroid storm (as can stopping too quickly), but I'm sensitive to stims and don't want to be too jumpy. The last time I had my thyroid checked my TSH was WNL but my Free T3 was low. Unfortunately that doesnt mean shit clinically as TSH and free T4 are what's used to diagnose hypo or hyperthyroidism.

 

[kbrkbr]

Personally I haven't had the balls to try any thyroid hormones. How do you feel when on it? I know that too high of a dose too soon of course can cause a life-threatening thyroid storm (as can stopping too quickly), but I'm sensitive to stims and don't want to be too jumpy. The last time I had my thyroid checked my TSH was WNL but my Free T3 was low. Unfortunately that doesnt mean shit clinically as TSH and free T4 are what's used to diagnose hypo or hyperthyroidism.

I, too, am extremely sensitive to stimulants -- can't even drink diet coke -- but the lethargy caused by gh had gotten to the point that I was taking two naps every day just to get through. After working my way up to 200, that dose doesn't seem like a stimulant but it does counter the gh enough so that I don't feel exhausted all day. On the rare ocassions that it does make me jumpy, I simply skip dosing the next day: The half life is quite long, something like 4 days as I recall.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

yeah what is the lethargy with gh all about? does it have to do with all the cells dividing requires lots of cellular energy and in turn your body needs more energy just to go about its daily routine?

 

[informed09]

is there a noticeable difference with the T4 as to without it?

 

[ole farte']

how much T4 should you run while on GH? And for how long?

Go to anabolic fitness and read the thread "Ulter and other GH users" they find that anthony roberts does not make a compelling case for t-4 with gh, most find it's a waste of money. you can run t-3 at a lower and cheaper dose, 25mcg. seems like it's been discussed over there for a long time and just recently comes up when there's a new edition of somebodys book to sell.

 

[52_21_30]

Whether it's t4 or t3 doesnt really matter that much (just adjust the dosage). But thyroid hormones have long been advocated when using GH. But then again so has insulin, and I dont use that anymore. I definitely think I could benefit from either t3 or t4 with my GH, but I don't want to be too jumpy.

 

[informed09]

I have used T3 before and never really get a jumpy feeling. guess i will stick with a low dose of it

Whether it's t4 or t3 doesnt really matter that much (just adjust the dosage). But thyroid hormones have long been advocated when using GH. But then again so has insulin, and I dont use that anymore. I definitely think I could benefit from either t3 or t4 with my GH, but I don't want to be too jumpy.