GH and joints....ouch!!!

[jdevlin1985]

Currently running GH and am in month 2 right now at 4iu/day. Stacked with winny, test, T3, clen etc. My prob is I have read alot about joint pains but jezz my hands are killing me. Stiff as a board!!! I sit at a desk all day which involves alot of typing also which does not help. I believe this is most probably the GH sides, am I right?

Is this a good/bad sign and are there any precautions I should now take?

Thanks in advance guys

 

[bigjd69]

Currently running GH and am in month 2 right now at 4iu/day. Stacked with winny, test, T3, clen etc. My prob is I have read alot about joint pains but jezz my hands are killing me. Stiff as a board!!! I sit at a desk all day which involves alot of typing also which does not help. I believe this is most probably the GH sides, am I right?

Is this a good/bad sign and are there any precautions I should now take?

Thanks in advance guys

Def. the GH bro. The same thing happened to me with 2 ius/day. I have discontinued for now and plan to start back up next week. I have read that maybe trying to split the doses up during the day may help. Try 2ius in the a.m. around 10 then another 2ius around 3 p.m. Also it was making me feel very lethargic. Let me know if this helps Good Luck

 

[jdevlin1985]

Def. the GH bro. The same thing happened to me with 2 ius/day. I have discontinued for now and plan to start back up next week. I have read that maybe trying to split the doses up during the day may help. Try 2ius in the a.m. around 10 then another 2ius around 3 p.m. Also it was making me feel very lethargic. Let me know if this helps Good Luck

Thanks buddie! Yeh I do use a split during the day, 2iu 7am and 2iu say 6pm - reason only being my job kind of prevents me from shooting around 1-3pm. I also feel very lethargic also mate...especially as I am cutting at the mo the low carb days really do not help

Did you stop GH mainly due to the joint probs, did it get that bad for you?

 

[skookum]

The winny may make you ache too. I "creake like an old man" when I run winny w/ pain all over, especially the joints.

 

[jdevlin1985]

The winny may make you ache too. I "creake like an old man" when I run winny w/ pain all over, especially the joints.

Good point! I have decreased dose now from 50mg ED - EOD whilst I increased the test. This joint pain, if it is from the GH could this be a sign I am predisposed to 'aremeglia' (defo spelt wrong I know but hopefully know what I am talking about) especially pain in the hands....

 

[ed2005]

Currently running GH and am in month 2 right now at 4iu/day. Stacked with winny, test, T3, clen etc. My prob is I have read alot about joint pains but jezz my hands are killing me. Stiff as a board!!! I sit at a desk all day which involves alot of typing also which does not help. I believe this is most probably the GH sides, am I right?

Is this a good/bad sign and are there any precautions I should now take?

Thanks in advance guys

The winny definately doesn't help JD. I'm on my way down off the winny and my joint pains have all but gone so I'm wondering was it the GH in the first place. The tiredness is still here though but I'm going against the common opinion an going to shoot before my workout in the late afternoon to see if my PW spike brings my energy back up and hopefully will aid my sleep at night by moving that daytime tiredness to night time. Just feel it's worth the try.
Also curious, are you both on Jinno's as well? I never experienced this on Saizen and slept like a baby at night so am wondring is it just a Jinnos side?
Ed

 

[jdevlin1985]

The winny definately doesn't help JD. I'm on my way down off the winny and my joint pains have all but gone so I'm wondering was it the GH in the first place. The tiredness is still here though but I'm going against the common opinion an going to shoot before my workout in the late afternoon to see if my PW spike brings my energy back up and hopefully will aid my sleep at night by moving that daytime tiredness to night time. Just feel it's worth the try.
Also curious, are you both on Jinno's as well? I never experienced this on Saizen and slept like a baby at night so am wondring is it just a Jinnos side?
Ed

Hey ED! Yeh I am also on Jinno. It is usually mid afternoon, like right now, the 'GH afternoon slump' hits me hard. I am now typing this at work and feeling as if I could drop my head down and nod off to sleep any moment.

If dont mind me asking ED where are you injecting subQ? I was hitting the lower ab region and fat loss quite incredible. Now shooting in ass but dont see the spot fat loss working so great!!!!

 

[ed2005]

Hey ED! Yeh I am also on Jinno. It is usually mid afternoon, like right now, the 'GH afternoon slump' hits me hard. I am now typing this at work and feeling as if I could drop my head down and nod off to sleep any moment.

If dont mind me asking ED where are you injecting subQ? I was hitting the lower ab region and fat loss quite incredible. Now shooting in ass but dont see the spot fat loss working as good!!!!

Yeh the afternoon slump is damn bad JD, you could just fall asleep on the spot, no enthusiasm for anything that's why I'm shifting to late afternoon to try and "re-arrange" the tiredness to its rightful place....nighttime.

Believe it or not I'm currently shooting sub-q into the fatty diposits on my chest and it's certainly moving shit but far from where I'm looking to finish. I'm also using Yohimburn BTW. Are you still shooting sub-q for the ass or changed to IM, that would make a difference IMO and also surely the fatty deposits on the rear wouldn't be as substantial as on the stomach which would also make it harder to see the benefits..

 

[jdevlin1985]

Yeh the afternoon slump is damn bad JD, you could just fall asleep on the spot, no enthusiasm for anything that's why I'm shifting to late afternoon to try and "re-arrange" the tiredness to its rightful place....nighttime.

Believe it or not I'm currently shooting sub-q into the fatty diposits on my chest and it's certainly moving shit but far from where I'm looking to finish. I'm also using Yohimburn BTW. Are you still shooting sub-q for the ass or changed to IM, that would make a difference IMO and also surely the fatty deposits on the rear wouldn't be as substantial as on the stomach which would also make it harder to see the benefits..

Excellent - keep it going bud! Yeh Im shooting into ass, alternating every few days from right to left. I want to achieve the most shredded look i have ever achieved before and to narrow waist as much as poss but that ass fat is just a to get rid of....

What are your goals ED and what stage are you at right now?:

^ bump for any info regarding the abnormal bone growth syndrome?

 

[ed2005]

Excellent - keep it going bud! Yeh Im shooting into ass, alternating every few days from right to left. I want to achieve the most shredded look i have ever achieved before and to narrow waist as much as poss but that ass fat is just a to get rid of....

What are your goals ED and what stage are you at right now?:

^ bump for any info regarding the abnormal bone growth syndrome?

I've been BB for over 20 years JD but had a 5 year "bad lifestyle" break... and only back training properly about a year. Want to get my shape back and get rid of a lot of badly aquired BF form eating and drinking shit for that time. I'm currently about 240lbs but about 20% but that's only a guess as there's no test here to measure BF. I'd get a pic for some bros to access the BF but I'm to embarrassed considering how I've let myself go.. Anyway would love to get to 10% at the same weight as today and at my age that would be quite an acheivement.

 

[jdevlin1985]

I've been BB for over 20 years JD but had a 5 year "bad lifestyle" break... and only back training properly about a year. Want to get my shape back and get rid of a lot of badly aquired BF form eating and drinking shit for that time. I'm currently about 240lbs but about 20% but that's only a guess as there's no test here to measure BF. I'd get a pic for some bros to access the BF but I'm to embarrassed considering how I've let myself go.. Anyway would love to get to 10% at the same weight as today and at my age that would be quite an acheivement.

ED you can do it buddie. Keep that head up, diet clean and hit that cardio and you will get back where you want to be. Do not be embarrassed at all...keep those pics and compare once you have achieved it. Will feel on top of the world mate!!!! Stay dedicated - you can do it

What age and height are you mate?