GH and IGF-1 without insulin????? VETS?

[Christianlifter]

Im looking to do a great stack.
I got some GH and IGF-1 and access to AS.
Im wondering if the insulin is necessary. I know the GH will create a deficiency but with the IGF-1 will it make that much of a difference with some good AS?
The whole hypoglycemic death thing freaks me out a little about the slin, but if it makes THAT much of a difference, I will consider doing it very carefully.
Thanks in advance bros.

God Bless,

CL

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

i wouldnt bother with slin. i think its over rated. have used it before.
just run igf by itself, no need for hgh with it, but maybe 2iu a day wouldnt hurt.

 

[Christianlifter]

i wouldnt bother with slin. i think its over rated. have used it before.
just run igf by itself, no need for hgh with it, but maybe 2iu a day wouldnt hurt.

Im thinking 6 month cycle, IGF-1 30 days on 30 days off, GH throughout and assorted AS..setting up for post cycle IGF-!
Thoughts on that?

 

[Mr.X]

Im thinking 6 month cycle, IGF-1 30 days on 30 days off, GH throughout and assorted AS..setting up for post cycle IGF-!
Thoughts on that?

I would run IGF 30 on/60 off, and run GH the time you're not running the IGF-1. This would only be for advanced bodybuilders, most int/newbies don't need IGF or GH.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

I agree.
I am running assorted AAS now for six on- four off. my four weeks off are nolva, trib and igf. hoping to get real big!

 

[Retabolil2]

i wouldnt bother with slin. i think its over rated. have used it before.
just run igf by itself, no need for hgh with it, but maybe 2iu a day wouldnt hurt.

I wouldnt bother with IGF for sure as its definitely overpriced and over rated. As far as bulking goes insulin always gives me great gains and I havent seen any magic results from IGF so far...

 

[kbrkbr]

I've never found gh to be particualarly anabolic. Never did much for my muscles, whether on or off. I'm 50, and use it religiously, but not to get big. I didn't respond to IGF at all.

 

[Prizz]

I wouldnt bother with IGF for sure as its definitely overpriced and over rated. As far as bulking goes insulin always gives me great gains and I havent seen any magic results from IGF so far...

See, it's posts like this made me doubt IGF-1...... However, I decided to try it, and I'm up 5lbs in 1 week of SOLID muscle...... That's 5lbs while being on a calorie reduced diet, and only training smaller muscle grps (Bi's/Tri's/Delts) to bring them up to my larger muscle grps (Chest/Back/Thighs)..... I guess it just goes to show you that everyone is different, and certain compounds affect different people different ways.....

rizz

 

[Retabolil2]

See, it's posts like this made me doubt IGF-1...... However, I decided to try it, and I'm up 5lbs in 1 week of SOLID muscle...... That's 5lbs while being on a calorie reduced diet, and only training smaller muscle grps (Bi's/Tri's/Delts) to bring them up to my larger muscle grps (Chest/Back/Thighs)..... I guess it just goes to show you that everyone is different, and certain compounds affect different people different ways.....

rizz

IGF is working but its pricey. If you`re cutting then forget about insulin unless you`re a pro and know how to cut using both together. and if you plan bluking cycle then insulin is necessary in my opinion.

 

[Indy]

Im looking to do a great stack.
I got some GH and IGF-1 and access to AS.
Im wondering if the insulin is necessary. I know the GH will create a deficiency but with the IGF-1 will it make that much of a difference with some good AS?
The whole hypoglycemic death thing freaks me out a little about the slin, but if it makes THAT much of a difference, I will consider doing it very carefully.
Thanks in advance bros.

God Bless,

CL

Drop the slin, and drop GH if you are using IGF-1, TRUST ME, been down every one of those roads. Glad to answer questions, give me a shout.

 

[wayneboard1]

See, it's posts like this made me doubt IGF-1...... However, I decided to try it, and I'm up 5lbs in 1 week of SOLID muscle...... That's 5lbs while being on a calorie reduced diet, and only training smaller muscle grps (Bi's/Tri's/Delts) to bring them up to my larger muscle grps (Chest/Back/Thighs)..... I guess it just goes to show you that everyone is different, and certain compounds affect different people different ways.....

rizz

I think you need to consider the source of the statement as well.

 

[nautica]

If one is bulking and using IGF-1, I do not see why the addition of slin would not be advised, considering its price/benefit ration.

I see tons of debates about IGF-1 is good vs. it is worthless. Then on top of that the price is out ragous.

On the other hand. You can get a bottle of slin for $35 bucks and will see enormous gains with good quality muslce and at the same time not using AAS.

So, my question is: Why not include it?

My answer would be to drop the IGF-1 and include the slin. Cutting and/or bulking. Obviously, you would need to be extremely educated if using it to cut. But, it is being done everyday by the top pros. Many, even using it on the day of the contest to carb up.

If one was to do IGF-1 and slin. What is the recommended protocol? At the current time. I know it changes about evey 6 months.

Nautica

 

[Prizz]

If one is bulking and using IGF-1, I do not see why the addition of slin would not be advised, considering its price/benefit ration.

I see tons of debates about IGF-1 is good vs. it is worthless. Then on top of that the price is out ragous.

On the other hand. You can get a bottle of slin for $35 bucks and will see enormous gains with good quality muslce and at the same time not using AAS.

So, my question is: Why not include it?

My answer would be to drop the IGF-1 and include the slin. Cutting and/or bulking. Obviously, you would need to be extremely educated if using it to cut. But, it is being done everyday by the top pros. Many, even using it on the day of the contest to carb up.

If one was to do IGF-1 and slin. What is the recommended protocol? At the current time. I know it changes about evey 6 months.

Nautica

I don't know...... I've used insulin many times, with AAS, and without it..... Maybe it's my body type, but I just gained alot of fat and water while using it..... I tried it while cutting, tried it while bulking, and the result has always been alot of fat gain, lots of water retention, and not as much muscle gain as I would expect..... Maybe Ecto's get better results with insulin use, I don't know.....

rizz

 

[ALIN]

Im looking to do a great stack.
I got some GH and IGF-1 and access to AS.
Im wondering if the insulin is necessary. I know the GH will create a deficiency but with the IGF-1 will it make that much of a difference with some good AS?
The whole hypoglycemic death thing freaks me out a little about the slin, but if it makes THAT much of a difference, I will consider doing it very carefully.
Thanks in advance bros.

God Bless,

CL

i dont bother with insulin. no room for error with this stuff.

 

[Indy]

I think you need to consider the source of the statement as well.

when one stores sells it, the other has to bash it, biggest complaint I have left about this place, that stuff needs to stay off the board anyways. So for once I agree with Woody

 

[wayneboard1]

when one stores sells it, the other has to bash it, biggest complaint I have left about this place, that stuff needs to stay off the board anyways. So for once I agree with Woody

Yeah...thanks....and it's "THE Wayne"; not woody. Got it chachi?

 

[Indy]

Yeah...thanks....and it's "THE Wayne"; not woody. Got it chachi?

Sorry WAYNE, but you did earn that title, fair and square hey the wifey is looking for you if you get a few minutes, you know her, nosey, nosey, nosey.

To keep the thread on topic, this is day 8 I am back on IGF-1 and the strength increase in the gym tonight was unreal, 3 months off due to illness and injury, and one week later I feel more than 75% back in the game, no kidding....