GH 4.5ius everyday........thoughts?????

[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

it seems that there are an overabundance of ideas of how to cycle and use GH( i.e. on days u train, 5 on 2 off, 4 on 3 off, etc..), what about using it everyday? i was told that the 5 on 2 off idea is false, based on the fact that the 2 days off isnt enough to get the regular levels back to normal from using the exogenous gh(in laymans terms)



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[liquidmuscle]

do a search for GH and use Ironmaster and M.O.D as the user name you will find hella answers, me personally...i will be doing 4iu;s 5 on 2 off

 

[diamonddiceclay]

a pro bb'er I know told me that the top pros today all use it daily

 

[gettingdiesel]

I used the traditional 4ius 5 on 2 off. and got great results in terms of leaning out.

GD

 

[Big Moose]

Everyone seems to get great results with 5 on 2 off, and as stated above Ironmaster and M.O.D. are the Gods of Growth. Listen to what they say.

 

[Big Moose]

I would start with 4I.U's 5 on/ 2 off

good luck

Exactly, go about a month and if you feel comfartable you can increase to 6iu/day. Just to let you know at this dose (6iu) I started to experience sides and had to drop down. Everyone is different. I will try 6iu/day again in about 2 weeks. Hopefully this time around my body will be able to handle it better. Peace and good luck.

 

[athlete03]

What's the lightest cycle of GH you can do and still get results?

 

[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

thanks for the replys, i think you guys are under the assumption that i am a novice and know nothing, which i am certainly not, i have done GH before as well as a ton of other devices to enhance my muscularity....i have been in contact with ironmaster a number of times also so i know him well.......
what i am asking in this post is the difference of doing GH everyday as opposed to the traditional 5 on 2 off, someone recently told me that 2 days off isnt enough time for your body to recooperate from the exogenous GH use....so back to my point, why take those 2 days off??


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[ironmaster]

Hey, jonathon.....there is no harm in using GH every day.....we produce our own all day every day. The pituitary doesn't take Sat. and Sunday off. Exogenous GH injections only supress natural production for a few hours.....it's not like test, for example.
So, don't inject before bed (we produce 80% of our own GH during the first period of REM sleep, so we wouldn't want to suppress that), and dosing everyday would be fine. I have said that the 5/2 split worked good for me, but that it was just a matter of economics. If you can afford to use GH everyday, fine. If you want to stretch your $'s, you will still be happy with your results on a 5/2.
Personally, I think as little as 2iu a day everyday will produce good results, considering that our natural production is only .5 to 1.5iu depending on age. 2iu is great for older guys......hell, the hormone replacement doctors prescribe .75iu a day. For young guys who compete, try 4.5/6/8 on a 12 week cycle increasing each month. Mega doses are mostly wasted, due to our natural defense mechanisms.
And JP ain't no novice, he just asks questions, like we all should.

 

[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

there he is!! thanks iron...
is the reason that you use it 5 on 2 off based on $$ solely? or does health issues become more relevant.....
based on what u say iron, if "one" had the $ to do it, 4.5ius a day for a month, then 6 for a month, then 8 for a month, that would be ideal?? (not doses for the weak ) if so, thats what ill do, i was doing a 12 weeker actually, not a typical iron cycle but close to it..... 105mg fina(1.5ccs) and 50mg zambons ed for first 6 weeks, t400 2.5ccs for 10 weeks, 1 sus and 1 primoteston a week for 10 weeks making that 1500mgs of test, 600mg eq for 12 weeks, and most likely ip anavar at 60mg a day for last 6 weeks......slin is a maybe, but im looking more to cut up and harden.....also using t3 at week 5 and eca and clen throughout....

that aint no iron cycle, but you thinks its close GHmaster




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[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

Exogenous GH injections only supress natural production for a few hours.....it's not like test, for example.
So, don't inject before bed (we produce 80% of our own GH during the first period of REM sleep, so we wouldn't want to suppress that), and dosing everyday would be fine. I have said that the 5/2 split worked good for me, but that it was just a matter of economics. If you can afford to use GH everyday, fine. If you want to stretch your $'s, you will still be happy with your results on a 5/2. For young guys who compete, try 4.5/6/8 on a 12 week cycle increasing each month. Mega doses are mostly wasted, due to our natural defense mechanisms.
And JP ain't no novice, he just asks questions, like we all should.

iron, was that 4.5/6/8 dose an everyday dose?
and also, where is the information that says that exogenous GH use only suppresses natural levels for a few hours....i have been told that the exo. use suppreses it enough that it takes days to get back to GH homeostasis....



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[ironmaster]

No, 4.5iu ED for the first 4 weeks, 6iu the second 4 weeks, and 8 the third.....on a 12 week cycle.
Yes, that sounds like a good cycle....you will get big and lean. I generally kick off with suspension and anadrol along with the test. Suspension at 1 cc ED for 20 days and 100 to 150mg anadrol, along with the gram and a half of prop and cyp. At the seven to 8 week mark, I taper back the insulin and test if I'm not lean enough and go to the fina, eq, and winstrol to finish. If I'm looking for size, I'll run the test all the way.
I don't recommend this much gear for everyone.....I'm an old fart and need a lot, and I don't give a shit about sides.

 

[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

trust me iron, i have that cycle u just listed memorized, but i chose to do it my way because i dont want that bloat, i want abs

thanks again, can u tell me where i can see those studies on gh suppression with exo use?


J/P

 

[NYStrip]

Ironmaster is an animal for sure, and that cycle isn't necessary for a beginner, but with some arimidex you should be able to keep bloat to a minimum with any cycle. I'll find out if this is true next time around.

 

[ironmaster]

Sure, JP........here's where you start. Trouble is, no one studies these matters from the perspective of the BB'er. You have to go way back to the 1960's to find direct studies of performance enhancement........back when those damn Russians, East Germans, Romanians etc were kicking our asses in the Olympics.


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