at a competition i went to this past weekend there was a 50 yr old competing in the masters, and won. guy was BIG and RIPPED!!! had a little loose skin on abs (not fat, just loose skin). you could tell cause it wrinkled and bunched up over a six pack. striated arms, quads, everything. he could have beaten all junior competitors and placed top 5 in open. i was DAMN impressed.
jkerry