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Getting a little scared, please help

Bro's, a few questions. Please help me out. I am getting a little scared.

1. I shoot my winny in my shoulder, every other day rotating shoulders. Today when I shot it, when I pulled the needle out my arm was gushing out blood like crazy. Usually just a little tiny bit of blood comes out, this time I had a tingly feeling in my shoulder and blood gushing out like crazy. Does this mean I hit an artery or something? It scared the shit out of me, I thought I was going to die.

2. If I do shoot it into a vein or shoot it with an air bubble what whould happen?

3. Probaly the most important, I have my winny in one big vial. When looking at it earlier, it had a couple of tiny black specs in it. It sorta looked like little tiny peices of string. This scared me too. I never seen it before, and all the sudden I noticed it. The vial is air tight, I can flip it and shake it and nothing comes out. Is it possible some how the string got in there?

I kno this was long, sry, but I"d appreciate the help, especially with numbers 1 and 3. I kno 2 is kinda stupid, but some people say you'll die others say definatly not. Thanks bro's. Bump for alot of replies, especially 1 and 3.
 
1 you hit a vein
2 you could possibly pass out from that. nothing to be scared about though...
3 dont know about the string though..bump for you
 
i've rotated shouldes ed with no problems, you could do some tri injects also, but don't worry about a bad inject, that happens, as for the shit in your winny, what kind is it? sometimes the needle will pierce the rubber and push a "sliver" you could say in the vial
 
its like a little black peice of string. i have no idea how it wouldve got in there, it is pretty tiny though. if it is a peice of string or something would it do ne thing to me if i accidently drew it out with the winny and shot it. also thanks for the help, i appreciate it bro's, dont kno wut i'd do wit out yous
 
well definitely don't draw it in the needle, and definitely don't shoot it, is this "underground lab" winny or quality lab?
 
When i shot it yesterday, I think I may have accidently drew some in the needle and not noticed. Because now all the sudden I only see one of the lil peices, when there was two. Im not sure though, but it was so small I may have not even noticed. If I did I'm ok right? Bump for replies
 
Ive stated this before. I routinely inject 1cc of air mixed with 10cc of water directly into the vein and repeat up to three or four times. Thats 3-4cc of air. I do this becuase I want to see if the air bubbles cross into different sections of the heart using ultrasound. If they do then people have a hole in the heart that didnt close after birth. Up to 20% of the population has a small hole in the heart. I have never, never had a problem doing this and is very common in cardiology to do this "bubble" study. In fact, I see air bubbles in the heart after they give and medicne throught the IV. They are inevitable. So common sense should apply, dont go injecting 10cc of air into your vein, but dont sweat the small stuff.

Wassup Mixwell, havent heard from you in awhile.
 
yeh lucias, i was explained in my last surgery it took a LOT of air to kill you, i asked as i was looking at the hundreds of air bubbles coming down in my IV before surgery
 
trust me many of people have injected that particle crap into their body and not even noticed it--ive done it and many people have---sure its not good to do but it wont kill ya--if i were you when i have that crap i bake the gear for 90 minutes at 225 degrees just to make sure its more sterile and if its still in their then i try and draw it out with a needle and get rid of it---alot of bottles have that stuff in it ---i have never baked winstrol though so it might ruin it----check before you bake it
 
If you shot a syringe full of air IV, it might be enough to cause a heart attack. Little bubbles won't kill you but I still make sure each injection is tight.

I could never understand why everyone doesn't inject in the glute, but if you're going to use delt or thigh, for gods sakes draw back to make sure you aren't in a vein. (No big veins in the ass)

A string in your vial? Holy shit, man, throw that shit away!
 
MikeOL said:
I thought u can die if an Air Bubble got into ur body?

It is possible for an air bubble to travel through your cardiovascular system and cause a blockage to blood flow in your heart...I said POSSIBLE...not likely. You definitely don't want to inject air, especially into your veins/arteries, if at all possible.
 
You shouldn't be injecting the same area EOD. Scar tissue build up will make prolonged injects very bloody.
As far as a "string" I wouldn't inject it. Drink it if you must. Hopefully it's just a piece of the rubber stopper.
 
Actually it is impossible to get a heart attack from injecting air into your vein. A vein goes to the right side of the heart. It is then pumped to the lungs where the bubbles are absorbed. If you pumped like 100 cc of air into a vein you could cause a pulmonary embolism I suppose (that is not a heart attack. NBC reporter David Bloom died of that when a massive blood clot traveled up into the right heart and was pumped to the lungs, last friday I had a patient die of the exact same thing.) But most people dont have syringe near the size it would take to cause a PE. Heart attacks occur on the left side of the heart after the blood has come back from the lungs with oxygen b/c the coronary arteries come off of the aorta and feed the heart muscle the oxygenated blood. Theoretically an air bubble could cross through a hole in the heart and go down one of these arteries and cause a blockage, but the location of the coronary arteries makes this near impossible and has never been documented, as I said before I routinely inject several ccs of air into patients to check for holes in the heart and they do cross over all the time. The only time Ive seen patients die b/c of an emboli going down a coronary artery has been from endocarditis, where bacterial colonies break off and go down them or tumors such as fibroelastomas whose hairlike stalks break off.
 
DRRman said:
yeh lucias, i was explained in my last surgery it took a LOT of air to kill you, i asked as i was looking at the hundreds of air bubbles coming down in my IV before surgery

Yup, be wary of so-called experts on this board that may have a book, but also an ego that prevents them from limiting their advice to their arena of expertise. Ive been annoyed recently with that and didnt want to get into listing how many letters we have behind our names I feel that it is important to comment on our what we know of evidence based medicine and to limit our so-called "knowledgable advice". The biggest problem with scientists today is the fact that they confuse their field of expertise with others. I routinely find one member in particular talking out of his ass about subjects he is completely wrong about. What was worse was being corrected by someone that has and ego, but no discernable education. Just b/c some jackass has used the google search obsessively doesnt make him an expert. I think it would be funny to research his posts with some experts to actually see how many of his posts are f**king BS. If you have any questions, pm me and Ill be happy to answer them with explanations, research and resources. YOU'LL NEVER GET A "TRUST ME ON THIS" FROM ME:doc:
 
luciasbrown said:
Actually it is impossible to get a heart attack from injecting air into your vein. A vein goes to the right side of the heart. It is then pumped to the lungs where the bubbles are absorbed. If you pumped like 100 cc of air into a vein you could cause a pulmonary embolism I suppose (that is not a heart attack. NBC reporter David Bloom died of that when a massive blood clot traveled up into the right heart and was pumped to the lungs, last friday I had a patient die of the exact same thing.) But most people dont have syringe near the size it would take to cause a PE. Heart attacks occur on the left side of the heart after the blood has come back from the lungs with oxygen b/c the coronary arteries come off of the aorta and feed the heart muscle the oxygenated blood. Theoretically an air bubble could cross through a hole in the heart and go down one of these arteries and cause a blockage, but the location of the coronary arteries makes this near impossible and has never been documented, as I said before I routinely inject several ccs of air into patients to check for holes in the heart and they do cross over all the time. The only time Ive seen patients die b/c of an emboli going down a coronary artery has been from endocarditis, where bacterial colonies break off and go down them or tumors such as fibroelastomas whose hairlike stalks break off.
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Pulmonary embolism. Thanks for clarifying that lucias. But really, it's six of one, half a dozen of the other in terms of the end result isn't it? Your heart stops. You die. And you stay dead for a long time.
 
I never liked shooting in the glutes, it is just an uncomfortable position. It is a very painless and amooth injection though.

-sk
 
Nelson Montana said:
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Pulmonary embolism. Thanks for clarifying that lucias. But really, it's six of one, half a dozen of the other in terms of the end result isn't it? Your heart stops. You die. And you stay dead for a long time.

Not exactly, b/c you can survive a pulm emolism with certain medications as well as a heart attack with other medications. Certainly you would want a physician with your attitude or education deciding which medication in that critical time in the ER. I am sick and tired of you talking outside of your scope of knowledge. You have no idea about cardiovascular care and advanced cardiovascular life support. So- do this people on this board a favor and limit your responses to what you do know and stop putting people at risk with your limited ideas. Medicine is not your scope and Im saying-shut the hell up b/c you are putting people at risk- got it!
 
luciasbrown said:


Not exactly, b/c you can survive a pulm emolism with certain medications as well as a heart attack with other medications. Certainly you would want a physician with your attitude or education deciding which medication in that critical time in the ER. I am sick and tired of you talking outside of your scope of knowledge. You have no idea about cardiovascular care and advanced cardiovascular life support. So- do this people on this board a favor and limit your responses to what you do know and stop putting people at risk with your limited ideas. Medicine is not your scope and Im saying-shut the hell up b/c you are putting people at risk- got it!
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You're splitting hairs my friend. And it's obvious you're trying to provoke something.

I never said I was an expert in cardiology. Besides, it was an aside to the post and it didn't put anyone at risk. So you want to get the stick out of your ass now?











And oh yeah, fuck you.
 
Nelson Montana said:
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You're splitting hairs my friend. And it's obvious you're trying to provoke something.

I never said I was an expert in cardiology. Besides, it was an aside to the post and it didn't put anyone at risk. So you want to get the stick out of your ass now?

OK. here is the deal. Ill shut up for now, you annoyed me with some quotes against me. I am going to order your book tomorrow and see if I agree. I'll either agree or Ill continue this., but until then Ill ratchet it way down.











And oh yeah, fuck you.
 
luciasbrown said:

Okay I dont understand why myposts dont come up, but I saying this one last time. I searched Nelson lookin for things to flame him. BUT I agreed with him 90% of the time. I am going to get hiis book by emaiol. I'll stop the flame if I gree. I make if enough money to give him the benefit of the doubt, so Ill letyou'll know
 
Luciasbrown, I think you just made my day that much more enjoyable.

Thank you.

Fonz. :)
 
Nelson Montana said:
If you shot a syringe full of air IV, it might be enough to cause a heart attack. Little bubbles won't kill you but I still make sure each injection is tight.

I could never understand why everyone doesn't inject in the glute, but if you're going to use delt or thigh, for gods sakes draw back to make sure you aren't in a vein. (No big veins in the ass)

A string in your vial? Holy shit, man, throw that shit away!

The reason Nelson, if you are a multiple shot guy, you cant just fill your ass full of oil, plus if you are taking something painful like t400 or suspension, you want to spread out the pain


PS. looking forward to a HARD COPY r ;-)
 
conan69 said:


The reason Nelson, if you are a multiple shot guy, you cant just fill your ass full of oil, plus if you are taking something painful like t400 or suspension, you want to spread out the pain

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That depends how big your ass is. :)
 
2. If I do shoot it into a vein or shoot it with an air bubble what whould happen? _ if you inject air into a vein,you will likely die,if you shoot oil into a vein,also you could end up dead.one way to avoid this possibility is to asperate with every injection
 
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