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Germans: They've going back down the path...

scriptfactory

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Well, they've finally gone and done it. In case you don't know the National Democratic Party (the english translation for the "Nationalsozialistisch Partei Deutschland") is the political front for modern National Socialists (aka Neo-Nazis). In a few eastern Germany Bundeslands (like states in the U.S.) the NPD has tonight taken the political lead. This means they have power.

Yes, you read this correctly: the Neo-Nazi political party actually has control of part of Germany. After hearing this I was speechless. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!?

Living here I see a large amount of racism on a daily basis (as I am an alien). I told my girlfriend repeatedly and she constantly defended her country stating that the amount of racist people in this country was very low. Well it turns out that I was right and she was wrong. I really don't know what to say.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...zi19.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/09/19/ixworld.html

This is a news article related to this event. I am watching the news right now and seeing the protests. A large number of Germans are against this change in political power. I would hope so...
 
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before we all flip out about the resurgence of naziism...

it's just a name... and one that didn't even really apply to the original nazis anyway. they were more fascist than socialist

Although you'd think that in germany they're very conscious of this sort of thing and wouldn't deliberately align with naziism
 
casualbb said:
before we all flip out about the resurgence of naziism...

it's just a name... and one that didn't even really apply to the original nazis anyway. they were more fascist than socialist

Although you'd think that in germany they're very conscious of this sort of thing and wouldn't deliberately align with naziism
Uh, no. It's pretty well known in Germany that the NPD is the political front for the Neo Nazis. There are several prominent Nazi leaders that are prominent political members of the NPD. Hmm... A Nazi by any other name...

The name Nazi comes from Nationalsozialist... The current NPD political agenda is very, very similar to the one that Hitler brought into effect. They did this on purpose, of course.
 
Subzeero said:
good luck living in germany anyways... most discriminating fucks ever. I know people that have been there.
Damn straight. I know what you mean. You've met a few people who lived there and they must of talked and met EVERY SINGLE GERMAN out there to give you their informed opinion.
 
+1 for "its there country"

I dont live there, i dont know the situation, or the circumstances that made the people feel this way. However im going to assume that there isnt some new air-borne stupid virus affecting them, and that they voted this way for a reason.
I'd like to hear there side of it.
 
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EnderJE said:
Damn straight. I know what you mean. You've met a few people who lived there and they must of talked and met EVERY SINGLE GERMAN out there to give you their informed opinion.

heh. well obviously we are talking about majority here. how ppl are treated in the stores, in schools (even little german kids), how they make fun of you at the airport if u don't know german etc, etc. All of the people(english speaking) that i know there, say they are boring and very conservative.

I am generalizing ofcourse. So i don't speak of the entire population. I have also heard women are really easy. ;)
 
18.5 percent unemployment??? Thats too many people with way too much free time on thier hands. Its not a big suprise that the people from the east are pissed, they have nothing else to do.
 
I doubt anything serious will happen. Some Germans are pissed off because of lax immigration laws and middle easterners coming in and using possibly abusing their system.

Though the Euro has hurt their industry....another moment of desperation could lead to another dictator rising. How interesting that would be.
 
so who do the germans hate now? can't be many jews left to pick on. what kind of racism do you see "daily?"
 
glennds said:
so who do the germans hate now? can't be many jews left to pick on. what kind of racism do you see "daily?"

There are a lot of turkish imigrents, and script factory looks black from his avatar. Maybe the Germans are blaiming them for their tanking economy. Damn socialist idiots.
 
Ummmm this is so much bullshit , they got 9% at the best of it!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3669974.stm

Compare that with 28% that the former communists got.

And a modern "Nazi" in Germany is still well left of the Democrats in the US. I pay 50% tax here and am perfectly aware that most of it goes directly to unemployed Turks , Africans and Russians who because of Germany's past pretty much got a free pass to come in here.

This is fucking typical - the merest hint that the Germans grow the tiniest bit of balls and wish to grow up and the some goofs start roaring Nazis at them - they're terrified of it - there were riots because of protesters AGAINST the success of this party for God's sake.

Germany is WAYYYYY too left wing right now , I dont want any truck with expanionist parties (a la Mr. Bush and co) but I'm tired of being fucked up the ass paying for other people's bullshit.
 
glennds said:
so who do the germans hate now? can't be many jews left to pick on. what kind of racism do you see "daily?"

I have never seen the slightest hint of racism here - which is more than I can say for either England or the US. There are a huge number or Turks here though - HUGE - that do not speak German and have no wish to integrate.
 
Mandinka2 said:
Ummmm this is so much bullshit , they got 9% at the best of it!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3669974.stm

Compare that with 28% that the former communists got.
The point is not that their lead is 9% compared to 28%. The point is that the NPD is once again in power and it looks like they will take complete political power over eastern Germany. The lead could be 1% and it would still suck if the Nazi's were in power.
And a modern "Nazi" in Germany is still well left of the Democrats in the US. I pay 50% tax here and am perfectly aware that most of it goes directly to unemployed Turks , Africans and Russians who because of Germany's past pretty much got a free pass to come in here.
I don't know how you pay 50% tax when the tax rate is 16%... Anyways, the NPD is trying to proclaim it will "clean up" Germany. Many Germans are tired of the high ass unemployment rate and are trying to blame this on everyone but themselves. GERMANS LET THEIR COUNTRY GO TO SHIT. I'm sitting here and asking myself why the taxes are so high (.75 EUR tax per liter of gasoline). I'm sitting here wondering why the unemployment rate is so high when there are a lot of jobs still open. Oh, yeah. The reason is you can stay at home (for free) and make 900 EUR per month with your apartment being payed for OR you can work for 400 EUR per month for three years and then AFTER you finished your initial work/training period you might make 900 EUR a month. Sometimes 1200 EUR.

I drive a fucking '98 VW Passat that I paid for with my own fucking money and Germans look at me like I stole something from them. I pay fucking taxes. I get NO help from the government (because I'm a U.S. citizen and we don't need help evidently.) So why was it so hard for me to get my Arbeitsurlaubnis (Work Permit). They tried hard as fuck to send me home. Good thing I have a child and there isn't anything (read: much) they can do to send me back now.

This is fucking typical - the merest hint that the Germans grow the tiniest bit of balls and wish to grow up and the some goofs start roaring Nazis at them - they're terrified of it - there were riots because of protesters AGAINST the success of this party for God's sake.

Germany is WAYYYYY too left wing right now , I dont want any truck with expanionist parties (a la Mr. Bush and co) but I'm tired of being fucked up the ass paying for other people's bullshit.
Read my original post again. I recall I said something like:
I am watching the news right now and seeing the protests. A large number of Germans are against this change in political power. I would hope so...

I have never seen the slightest hint of racism here - which is more than I can say for either England or the US. There are a huge number or Turks here though - HUGE - that do not speak German and have no wish to integrate.
And you would be which race? You look pretty white to me. I know for a fact that the average German holds a huge amount of resentment for ANYONE that is of another race (whether they speak German or not). I have German friends and they are constantly talking shit about non-Germans in a racist way. In supermarkets they sell sweet confections called Neggarkuessen (Nigger Kisses). The other day one of my girlfriends' friends said that whenever I have a disagreement with my girlfriend I let the "neggar komm raus" (or the "nigger come out"). One of my work associates/friends, when asked to do a menial task like take out the garbage for a coworker, replied "Ich bin nicht dein Neggar" (or "I'm not your nigger".) A former "family friend" say my son a few months after he was born and said "He doesn't look like a typical nigger baby. That's great!" While over at my girlfriends' mother's house for a weekend grilling session the neighbor came over to our yard. She was like, "That's a cute, baby. Is he mixed? Oh' well, it's not his fault." If racism is such a large part of the language then why the FUCK should it not be a part of the people.

Why do you think no Jews live here? Racism is alive and well in Germany. Primarily in the above 30yo crowd but it's also alive and well in the younger populace. The only reason I am still here is my girlfriend and my son. She isn't ready to leave Germany just yet.

P.S.: It's hilarious to watch the news talk about (a large amount of) Germans who believe the holocaust was a big lie to discredit Nazis and remove Hitler from power...
 
scriptfactory said:
The point is not that their lead is 9% compared to 28%. The point is that the NPD is once again in power and it looks like they will take complete political power over eastern Germany.
What planet are you from ? Please explain how a party that gets it's best ever vote at 9% " looks like they will take complete political power over eastern Germany" - you have got to be smoking some powerful hallucinogens.
Jorg Haider's right wing loonies in Austria got control (which the NDP are a VERY VERY far cry away from) of a REGIONAL part of Austria and where are they now ? Dead and fucking buried that's where. And neither the commies or the Nazis (and they are hardly that) have control - Christian Democrats have overall control there - a party of the centre.


scriptfactory said:
The lead could be 1% and it would still suck if the Nazi's were in power.

They don't have ANY lead , they are WAY behind the commies and even further behind the two parties of the centre.

scriptfactory said:
I don't know how you pay 50% tax when the tax rate is 16%... Anyways, the NPD is trying to proclaim it will "clean up" Germany. Many Germans are tired of the high ass unemployment rate and are trying to blame this on everyone but themselves. GERMANS LET THEIR COUNTRY GO TO SHIT. I'm sitting here and asking myself why the taxes are so high (.75 EUR tax per liter of gasoline). I'm sitting here wondering why the unemployment rate is so high when there are a lot of jobs still open. Oh, yeah. The reason is you can stay at home (for free) and make 900 EUR per month with your apartment being payed for OR you can work for 400 EUR per month for three years and then AFTER you finished your initial work/training period you might make 900 EUR a month. Sometimes 1200 EUR.

What country are you living in pal ? Add in the mandatory pension and social contribution and bang 50%. Are you taking your wife's allowance into account? Germans let their country go to shit eh ? Where are you living ? Go to Berlin and look who is living in the ghettoes , even in Munich very very very few GERMANS are unemployed. If I was to stop work right now , I would have a net loss in income of roughly 500 euro per month - and I earn a lot more than most here. Of course stop letting non EU citzens in here and what do other countries and folks like yourself scream ? NAZIs of course! This country would be fantastic if they cut all that shit out. UNderstand one thing - Germany pays for all the bullshit corruption in the South of Europe on top of the crap in its own backyard on top of the bulk of payments to NATO.

scriptfactory said:
I drive a fucking '98 VW Passat that I paid for with my own fucking money and Germans look at me like I stole something from them. I pay fucking taxes. I get NO help from the government (because I'm a U.S. citizen and we don't need help evidently.) So why was it so hard for me to get my Arbeitsurlaubnis (Work Permit). They tried hard as fuck to send me home. Good thing I have a child and there isn't anything (read: much) they can do to send me back now.
To be honest i dont understand your first sentence - I honestly have never encountered such - I imagine it's prejudice against Bush - are you military ? - sorry about your trouble (although I'm not German) , I was honestly greeted here with open arms. They are kinda cunts about the Arbeitsurlaubnis alright - and I dont understand that either. When did you get here?


scriptfactory said:
And you would be which race? You look pretty white to me. I know for a fact that the average German holds a huge amount of resentment for ANYONE that is of another race (whether they speak German or not). I have German friends and they are constantly talking shit about non-Germans in a racist way. In supermarkets they sell sweet confections called Neggarkuessen (Nigger Kisses). The other day one of my girlfriends' friends said that whenever I have a disagreement with my girlfriend I let the "neggar komm raus" (or the "nigger come out"). One of my work associates/friends, when asked to do a menial task like take out the garbage for a coworker, replied "Ich bin nicht dein Neggar" (or "I'm not your nigger".) A former "family friend" say my son a few months after he was born and said "He doesn't look like a typical nigger baby. That's great!" While over at my girlfriends' mother's house for a weekend grilling session the neighbor came over to our yard. She was like, "That's a cute, baby. Is he mixed? Oh' well, it's not his fault." If racism is such a large part of the language then why the FUCK should it not be a part of the people.
Yup I'm whiter than rice but I aint German , not by a long shot , Im Irish.- dude I think you're taking the Spike Lee stance here - my old German teacher (himself an Irishman) often commented about the number of African immigrants who come to Germany with one word "Bahnhof" - in the building I live in there are 2 African families - none of them work - none of them speak German , as you mention above their apartment is paid for by your (and my) taxes. Not only that but a ridiculous health system as well as cold hard cash. I do not know why it's part of the language but I've NEVER seen racism here in more than 3 years in Germany.

scriptfactory said:
Why do you think no Jews live here? Racism is alive and well in Germany. Primarily in the above 30yo crowd but it's also alive and well in the younger populace. The only reason I am still here is my girlfriend and my son. She isn't ready to leave Germany just yet.

P.S.: It's hilarious to watch the news talk about (a large amount of) Germans who believe the holocaust was a big lie to discredit Nazis and remove Hitler from power...

Ummm come down to Munich - plenty of Jews here , I've got Jewish mates - they don't get any shit - in fact some of them feel that the whole guilt over the holocaust thing is ridiculous. Hitler was not removed because of the holocaust - he was removed because he lost the war. I'm glad that you're working - hit me up a PM if you feel like it and we'll have a chat - I'm sure I can show you an entirely different side of Germany .
 
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Please explain how a party that gets it's best ever vote at 9% " looks like they will take complete political power over eastern Germany" - you have got to be smoking some powerful hallucinogens.
Well, when Gerhard Schroeder only has 9.5% of the vote there then I think that 9% is huge. I also heard that their power was on the rise. Who knows...?
And neither the commies or the Nazis (and they are hardly that) have control - Christian Democrats have overall control there - a party of the centre.
You seem to be the only person who doesn't realize the NPD is just a politcal front for Nazis. You would think their name would have been a big giveaway...

Taken from the New Zealan Herald (<-- LOL):
Germany's neo-Nazi, National Democratic Party made sweeping gains in key elections in the eastern state of Saxony yesterday in a shock protest vote that reflected the widespread unpopularity of Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's economic reform programme.
Please explain this:
The German government attempted to impose a constitutional ban on the NPD last year because of the party's links to violent skinhead organisations that have been responsible for the deaths of more than 100 foreign immigrants since German unification in 1990.
Don't make excuses for the Nazis please. The only reason the NPD is allowed to exist is through a loophole in German law. They have tried repeatedly to shut it down. Imagine, if you will, a new U.S. political party called the Klu Klux Klanians. How long do you think they would last?... Now a party called the Nazis are allowed to gain significant political power? LOL

What country are you living in pal ? Add in the mandatory pension and social contribution and bang 50%. Are you taking your wife's allowance into account? Germans let their country go to shit eh ? Where are you living ? Go to Berlin and look who is living in the ghettoes , even in Munich very very very few GERMANS are unemployed. If I was to stop work right now , I would have a net loss in income of roughly 500 euro per month - and I earn a lot more than most here. Of course stop letting non EU citzens in here and what do other countries and folks like yourself scream ? NAZIs of course! This country would be fantastic if they cut all that shit out. UNderstand one thing - Germany pays for all the bullshit corruption in the South of Europe on top of the crap in its own backyard on top of the bulk of payments to NATO.
1) I am living in Germany. Trust me, it's only because of my girlfriend and my son... 2) You're right. :) 3) I'm not married. 4) The country has gone to shit. Yes. I know who is living in the ghettos. Who's fault is that? Is it the fault of the immigrants who are coming to another country where they can live off of the government or is it the fault of the government for making it so damn easy for them to do it. I am not against stopping this constant flow of immigrants! I am all for it. I just don't want the Nazis to be in power. LOL
To be honest i dont understand your first sentence - I honestly have never encountered such - I imagine it's prejudice against Bush - are you military ? - sorry about your trouble (although I'm not German) , I was honestly greeted here with open arms. They are kinda cunts about the Arbeitsurlaubnis alright - and I dont understand that either. When did you get here?
I'm prior military. Germans assume that I am African and I came here and am living off of the government when in fact I had to start my own business as no one would give me a job. They act this way because I am black (in case you haven't noticed...) not because I am a U.S. citizen. I've been living in Germany for about 2 years (not including my military time.) And, yes, the Arbeitsurlaubnis is a bitch to get. It's actually harder for me to get it than it is for an immigrant to stay in germany and live off of the goverment. What is going on with that?!
dude I think you're taking the Spike Lee stance here - my old German teacher (himself an Irishman) often commented about the number of African immigrants who come to Germany with one word "Bahnhof" - in the building I live in there are 2 African families - none of them work - none of them speak German , as you mention above their apartment is paid for by your (and my) taxes. Not only that but a ridiculous health system as well as cold hard cash. I do not know why it's part of the language but I've NEVER seen racism here in more than 3 years in Germany.
You seem to be understanding me wrong. I am not against reducing the amount of immigrants. I am against RACISM. I have to deal with it EVERY DAY. Did you happen to see the examples I gave you? A large amount of Germans are racist, it's a fact. Even if not through words, through their actions. When I first hooked up with my girlfriend the first thing her grandmother said to her was, "Why with a nigger?" LOL Now she loves me but she was constantly pressured about what people would think of her for having a black person being a member of her family. My girlfriend's father is totally opposite. He only cares about money and welcomed me with open arms. He loves entrepreneurs. :)
Ummm come down to Munich - plenty of Jews here , I've got Jewish mates - they don't get any shit - in fact some of them feel that the whole guilt over the holocaust thing is ridiculous. Hitler was not removed because of the holocaust - he was removed because he lost the war. I'm glad that you're working - hit me up a PM if you feel like it and we'll have a chat - I'm sure I can show you an entirely different side of Germany .
There is a Jewish population in the larger cities but Germany is not made up of larger cities. It's made up of small towns and villages. I, personally, have not met or seen one Jewish person in the entire time I have been here. My girlfriend has never met or seen a Jewish person in her life... I know the thing about Hitler is ridiculous... that is the point of my statement. :p
 
scriptfactory said:
Well, when Gerhard Schroeder only has 9.5% of the vote there then I think that 9% is huge. I also heard that their power was on the rise. Who knows...?
Dude that's pretty fuckin weak.

scriptfactory said:
You seem to be the only person who doesn't realize the NPD is just a politcal front for Nazis. You would think their name would have been a big giveaway...
First of all the modern NPD is an amalgam of anarchists , beer swilling trailer park unemployed and Germans who have become so upset at what has happened to their country that they vote for a party that says (as so should the others) "I'm German and I'm proud" - go ask your German friends how many of them are proud to be Germans - this is just an emotional backlash so untwist your knickers right now. Most of these groups hate each other - they havent a fuckin hope. The Nazi party was an ultra nationalist ORGANISED movement of Germans (rightly) upset at the war aftermath , and scapegoatists who wished to blame their woes on both the communists (forgotten) and the Jews.

With regard to the article from the New Zealand Herald - that's exactly the point - even the modern parties will only put up with democracy so long as they can suppress Nazism - but you can't have it both ways... many Germans ARE rightly aggrieved and some realise that voting for these loons disgusting as it is will force the centrist parties to adopt some of the policies that you and I are in agreement on.

scriptfactory said:
Don't make excuses for the Nazis please. The only reason the NPD is allowed to exist is through a loophole in German law. They have tried repeatedly to shut it down. Imagine, if you will, a new U.S. political party called the Klu Klux Klanians. How long do you think they would last?... Now a party called the Nazis are allowed to gain significant political power? LOL
I have lived in 4 cities in Germany , travelled extensively throughout the world and will go on a round the world vacation beginning Oct 4th... in both England and the US I met the occassional anti-Paddy comment - and you know what I'm fuckin proud to be a Paddy - fuck these bastards , I make a shitload more than they do and I'd tear em all multiples sets of new assholes any which way you cut it. As to the Ku Klux Klan - here's the thing man - if the US had Germany's social welfare system the place would vote the KK in in the morning. Guarenteed.

scriptfactory said:
1) I am living in Germany. Trust me, it's only because of my girlfriend and my son... 2) You're right. :) 3) I'm not married. 4) The country has gone to shit. Yes. I know who is living in the ghettos. Who's fault is that? Is it the fault of the immigrants who are coming to another country where they can live off of the government or is it the fault of the government for making it so damn easy for them to do it. I am not against stopping this constant flow of immigrants! I am all for it. I just don't want the Nazis to be in power. LOL
I agree with all of the above BUT the only way to stop them coming is to become more like the US - you don't work you starve - end of story , I worked 96 hours a week when I went to the States in Logan airport in the summer of 98 on minimum wage - I lapped that shit right up.

scriptfactory said:
I'm prior military. Germans assume that I am African and I came here and am living off of the government when in fact I had to start my own business as no one would give me a job. They act this way because I am black (in case you haven't noticed...) not because I am a U.S. citizen. I've been living in Germany for about 2 years (not including my military time.) And, yes, the Arbeitsurlaubnis is a bitch to get. It's actually harder for me to get it than it is for an immigrant to stay in germany and live off of the goverment. What is going on with that?!
Ok man so you can see how come uneducated Germans can mistakenly come to that conclusion. You started your own business - more power to your elbow! Funny thing was I didnt notice you were black from the avatar - I give a fuck about colour - but I LOATHE leeches. The military thing certainly wont help you - they have a really bad rep here - drinkin and fightin that kind of thing , some of it deserved I have to say. I promise you I will leave Germany - they do need radical change. I get an offer from the US every year and one of these days I'll take it up , i have a few things I have to do here first though.


scriptfactory said:
You seem to be understanding me wrong. I am not against reducing the amount of immigrants. I am against RACISM. I have to deal with it EVERY DAY. Did you happen to see the examples I gave you? A large amount of Germans are racist, it's a fact. Even if not through words, through their actions. When I first hooked up with my girlfriend the first thing her grandmother said to her was, "Why with a nigger?" LOL Now she loves me but she was constantly pressured about what people would think of her for having a black person being a member of her family. My girlfriend's father is totally opposite. He only cares about money and welcomed me with open arms. He loves entrepreneurs. :)

I don't why but it's always the women in Germany with the ants in the pants - probably because the men are such pussies... serpents of the devil the women can be I think ... still hot though... actually be warned they REALLY cheat a lot. To be honest you can't complain too much about a grandma - they're a little dated with this stuff.And even then one swallow doesnt make a summer. Most Germans dont give a shit man - your girlfriend is proof of that. I know a black chic married to a German dude and the other way around here , no biggie.


scriptfactory said:
There is a Jewish population in the larger cities but Germany is not made up of larger cities. It's made up of small towns and villages. I, personally, have not met or seen one Jewish person in the entire time I have been here. My girlfriend has never met or seen a Jewish person in her life... I know the thing about Hitler is ridiculous... that is the point of my statement. :p

Well Im not sure if I agree with you there - the Jews were mostly concentrated in the professions so urban dwellings were their natural place even before the war. They are not a lot of orthodox Jews like in France but certainly more than in England or Ireland. As for your gf - well I cant blame her , that circumcision shit is nasty business ;-)))
 
How about our friend 'Le Pen' and the Nationalist Front in france? Didn't they get better than 10% of the popular vote last time?

THAT is scary shit.
 
Europeans are getting fed up with the lax enforcement of immigration and the growing number of immigrants from Northern Africa and the Middle East that refuse to integrate into Western society. Its a shame that no politician in the US has enough balls to address this problem.
 
n0th1ng said:
Europeans are getting fed up with the lax enforcement of immigration and the growing number of immigrants from Northern Africa and the Middle East that refuse to integrate into Western society. Its a shame that no politician in the US has enough balls to address this problem.

Agreed.
 
This is what happaens when you shove cultural diversirty and extreme socialist policy on people who arent ready for it (and humans arent ready for it)

You get a very extreme backlash.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
This is what happaens when you shove cultural diversirty and extreme socialist policy on people who arent ready for it (and humans arent ready for it)

You get a very extreme backlash.
So fucking true (sadly...)
 
n0th1ng said:
Europeans are getting fed up with the lax enforcement of immigration and the growing number of immigrants from Northern Africa and the Middle East that refuse to integrate into Western society. Its a shame that no politician in the US has enough balls to address this problem.

The only way you can get socialism to even appear to be working is with the level of control that Hitler used.

OR

You could dump socialism and let the problem work itself out.


Whether Germans like it or not, their choices are laissez-faire, or elect a new Hitler.
 
The Germans are starting to get their shit together , some more votes for Nazi (scum) and they'll shift away from the left to centre right - problem solved. They'll work it out. Funnily enough if Bush gets re-elected this will happen much faster.
 
Mandinka2 said:
Ummmm this is so much bullshit , they got 9% at the best of it!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3669974.stm

Compare that with 28% that the former communists got.

And a modern "Nazi" in Germany is still well left of the Democrats in the US. I pay 50% tax here and am perfectly aware that most of it goes directly to unemployed Turks , Africans and Russians who because of Germany's past pretty much got a free pass to come in here.

This is fucking typical - the merest hint that the Germans grow the tiniest bit of balls and wish to grow up and the some goofs start roaring Nazis at them - they're terrified of it - there were riots because of protesters AGAINST the success of this party for God's sake.

Germany is WAYYYYY too left wing right now , I dont want any truck with expanionist parties (a la Mr. Bush and co) but I'm tired of being fucked up the ass paying for other people's bullshit.
Damn right.
 
Y_Lifter said:
Canada builds cars ?


What is this "Canada" of which you speak.

Sounds painful. Is it like herpes?
 
@ scriptfactory: don’t blame the German people for their fucked-up government. We are not blaming the American people for George Bush either.
And your German friends are indeed racists, but they DO NOT represent an entire country. For every anecdote you tell I can tell another anecdote which proves that most Germans are no racists. For example: I witnessed thousand of Germans yell and applaud for Skunk Anansie. The singer of that band is a black women, and a lesbian too.

I have no idea were you heard the bullshit that most Germans think that the holocaust was a lie (I geuss it was RTL 2?). Germans are well aware of their horrible past.
 
Germany rocks. They have a horrible past. But if you cannot forgive (I said forgive not forget) a country for things done in the past I think the only nice country left on this planet would be the Northpole. Hmmm, is the Northpole a country?

I really love the grill culture they have. If it’s warmer ten 10 degrees celcius and it’s more or less dry they want to grill, excellent. Throw 6 steaks on the grill for me please. It's bulking heaven.
 
Lauw said:
For example: I witnessed thousand of Germans yell and applaud for Skunk Anansie. The singer of that band is a black women, and a lesbian too.

Actually she's bi....don't ask me how i know....
 
Lauw said:
@ scriptfactory: don’t blame the German people for their fucked-up government. We are not blaming the American people for George Bush either.
And your German friends are indeed racists, but they DO NOT represent an entire country. For every anecdote you tell I can tell another anecdote which proves that most Germans are no racists. For example: I witnessed thousand of Germans yell and applaud for Skunk Anansie. The singer of that band is a black women, and a lesbian too.

I have no idea were you heard the bullshit that most Germans think that the holocaust was a lie (I geuss it was RTL 2?). Germans are well aware of their horrible past.

The man has a point. If the rest of the world starts blaming America as a whole for the fuck ups of the Bush administration, most of the world will be our enemies very quickly.
 
A lot of Americans also seem to have the idea everybody hates them. Let me comfort you, that’s not the case. The majority of people don’t like the Iraq policy, but have nothing against America.

Personally I have a really hard time not to annoy people who really think that war is the solution against terrorism and who want to believe that everybody is against America. I guess it’s because it’s plain fun to annoy that kind of people. Booo! America! Booo! ;)
 
Lauw said:
@ scriptfactory: don’t blame the German people for their fucked-up government. We are not blaming the American people for George Bush either. And your German friends are indeed racists, but they DO NOT represent an entire country. For every anecdote you tell I can tell another anecdote which proves that most Germans are no racists. For example: I witnessed thousand of Germans yell and applaud for Skunk Anansie. The singer of that band is a black women, and a lesbian too.

I have no idea were you heard the bullshit that most Germans think that the holocaust was a lie (I geuss it was RTL 2?). Germans are well aware of their horrible past.
Actually people are still blaming the U.S. citizens for George Bush... Ever hear of "Anti-American" sentiment. Anyways, I'm just tired of Germans making the same mistakes over and over. They ARE too left wing, it's driving their country into the ground. At the same time they don't need to side with right wing extremists to fix their country...

I'm not blaming the NPD directly. I'm blaming the stupid people who voted for them. I was watching the news yesterday and they were interviewing members from the Nazi Party. Well, they asked them questions regarding significant events in their respective Bundesland and general knowledge about German Law. Basic stuff. None of them answered the questions correctly. One politician refused to speak with the news team as he was not a "good public speaker". Even someone with the intelligence of George Bush can get in front of a mike and talk some bullshit.

I agree with you that most Germans are not DIRECTLY racist. However, most of them display a large amount of racial bias daily. This is usually present in the 30yo+ generation, not so much the younger crowd. Also, this is more often present in areas with a low military population. I have noticed that in areas with a military presence they are more open and friendly as they have to deal with black people, mexicans, asians, etc. on a daily basis. I feel I don't need to give more examples even though I have plenty.

And where did I say that most Germans believe the holocaust was a lie?!
P.S.: It's hilarious to watch the news talk about (a large amount of) Germans who believe the holocaust was a big lie to discredit Nazis and remove Hitler from power...
I believe I wrote "a large amount". A lot of Nazis believe this shit. Most Germans know it is true. ;)
 
scriptfactory said:
I'm not blaming the NPD directly. I'm blaming the stupid people who voted for them. I was watching the news yesterday and they were interviewing members from the Nazi Party. Well, they asked them questions regarding significant events in their respective Bundesland and general knowledge about German Law. Basic stuff. None of them answered the questions correctly. One politician refused to speak with the news team as he was not a "good public speaker". Even someone with the intelligence of George Bush can get in front of a mike and talk some bullshit.

Exactly , these people are muppets - but by voting for these no hopers you are gonna start putting the shits up the main parties and remind them that they are WAY too left wing. I guarentee you 99.9% of Germans would welcome a man into their country who worked , regardless of skin colour.
 
scriptfactory said:
I agree with you that most Germans are not DIRECTLY racist. However, most of them display a large amount of racial bias daily. This is usually present in the 30yo+ generation, not so much the younger crowd.
And this is different than America how?
 
Mandinka2 said:
Exactly , these people are muppets - but by voting for these no hopers you are gonna start putting the shits up the main parties and remind them that they are WAY too left wing.
Good point. I never thought of it like this.
And this is different than America how?
The difference is that in the U.S. people mask their racism better. ;)
 
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