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ItalianMuscle27

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I personally sent a sample overseas for testing. I questioned the authenticity of them when I wasnt seeing sides at 4ius/day, and eventually went upto 8ius/day at my 7th week. The vials that I was sold from 2 different people, both claiming they are 8iu/vials. In reality, what they both sold me was 4iu/vials. So, I was taking 1/2 of what I thought I was. If I would have known it would have been fine, I could have adjusted my reconstitutions, and done it right. So we have someone that is cutting corners selling 4ius/vials as 8ius/vials, which is not right. Maybe they didnt know, but someone does.. Make your own judgements with the brown tops. I know I wont be using any generic anymore.. The tester told me the purity was good for them, but only at 4ius/vial.
 
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I can't see the file properly, but who did the test? I didn't see a company there. It looked like a plain word file, no logo etc...
 
Damn, let me get the file into a different format so it will come up. Maybe delete the thread, and ill try again.. Its coming up for me just fine..

I had it tested in china by a Biotech Company.
 
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isn't today the 27th? so they tested them today and sent them all today? its still morning? anyways.....makes sense what is happening....the stuff is legit some of the sources are just doubling their profit by selling half what they should.....although they might not know what is there either.....maybe it was a big shipment that got mislabled or something...who knows....at least you know you weren't crazy and something really was wrong!!!
 
Im going to need a few to get the file to upload. Sorry about that fellas..its coming up for me fine! Probably because its in my computer already.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Damn, let me get the file into a different format so it will come up. Maybe delete the thread, and ill try again.. Its coming up for me just fine..

I had it tested in china by Shanghai Geneway Biotech Company!

you can just add it here bro :coffee:
 
I have been waiting for these results, not just because I use the Brown tops and have heard GREAT things about them, but it seems that only a "couple" of people are bashing them on this site, and it seems a little fishy - so all I need (maybe "X" or "DRR") is to VERIFY that these tests are authentic, and from a real lab.

If they are just going to be posted as "Word" documents, or cut and pasted from something else, I will asume there is some reverse-scamming going on here.

Not accusing anyone of anything yet, but when you make Large Accusations, you should have ALL the info ready to "go"

Let's see............
 
itlnstln said:
I have been waiting for these results, not just because I use the Brown tops and have heard GREAT things about them, but it seems that only a "couple" of people are bashing them on this site, and it seems a little fishy - so all I need (maybe "X" or "DRR") is to VERIFY that these tests are authentic, and from a real lab.

If they are just going to be posted as "Word" documents, or cut and pasted from something else, I will asume there is some reverse-scamming going on here.

Not accusing anyone of anything yet, but when you make Large Accusations, you should have ALL the info ready to "go"

Let's see............

Italian muscle sent me the info for the china company, I'll call them tomorrow and verify.

Meanwhile, let's have a better format of the file posted.

I don't know why IM would make up tests, so I'm assuming these tests are real, but just to make sure there is no doubt - I'll call them.
 
It was sent to me in a word doc, so that is all I have. I gave Mr.X the site and place I sent the sample too, he can verify that it was sent and tested. I have nothing to lose or gain by posting this information. It sucks thinking you were taking something, but in reality only getting 1/2 of what you thought you were. Like I said, Im not accusing any source of anything, because maybe they didnt know either.. Ill try to post the results again in a few. Im trying to get the file into a different format..
 
itlnstln said:
If they are just going to be posted as "Word" documents, or cut and pasted from something else, I will asume there is some reverse-scamming going on here.

FYI. Reverse scamming is when a a buyer scams a source.

Like not paying a front.
 
DRRman said:
isn't today the 27th? so they tested them today and sent them all today? its still morning? anyways.....makes sense what is happening....the stuff is legit some of the sources are just doubling their profit by selling half what they should.....although they might not know what is there either.....maybe it was a big shipment that got mislabled or something...who knows....at least you know you weren't crazy and something really was wrong!!!


it was yesterday for us...i think china is about 12 hours ahead
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
It was sent to me in a word doc, so that is all I have. I gave Mr.X the site and place I sent the sample too, he can verify that it was sent and tested. I have nothing to lose or gain by posting this information. It sucks thinking you were taking something, but in reality only getting 1/2 of what you thought you were. Like I said, Im not accusing any source of anything, because maybe they didnt know either.. Ill try to post the results again in a few. Im trying to get the file into a different format..


Again, wasn't flaming you - I just wanted the whole story so "I" can go with another Generic
 
bicepts101 said:
it was yesterday for us...i think china is about 12 hours ahead

Close....China (Beijing standard) is 13 hours ahead for US east coast folks :coffee: It's 10:12pm in china now.
 
bicepts101 said:
i hear ya bro

If brown's no good - then i'll have to go Blue...................

There are some really good generics out there with all the UG Labs popping up, so there's still no need to be pushed into buying Jins, etc
 
itlnstln said:
If brown's no good - then i'll have to go Blue...................

There are some really good generics out there with all the UG Labs popping up, so there's still no need to be pushed into buying Jins, etc


JINS are way too expensive...i thought i would never try GH

i saw the price of generic and im in the process of my order now..LMAO:D
 
bicepts101 said:
lol yeah right...depends on where u get them from...distant in price they are

Listen - it's like any other ASS - if you find the right product - generic is the same.

People are pushin Jins cause they will a distant memory soon, once there is a solid-even flow of GOOD generics out there.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
It was sent to me in a word doc, so that is all I have. I gave Mr.X the site and place I sent the sample too, he can verify that it was sent and tested. I have nothing to lose or gain by posting this information. It sucks thinking you were taking something, but in reality only getting 1/2 of what you thought you were. Like I said, Im not accusing any source of anything, because maybe they didnt know either.. Ill try to post the results again in a few. Im trying to get the file into a different format..

I do know that a lot of these generics seem to come in different size vials...8iu, 10iu, 20iu even....and they are NOT labled....it could easily have been a source not knowing he got the wrong size vial before reselling...who knows........maybe we could post pics and check the height of the powder in the vial....as i am pretty sure a 8iu vial would have visibly more substance in it than a 4 iu vial
 
DRRman said:
I do know that a lot of these generics seem to come in different size vials...8iu, 10iu, 20iu even....and they are NOT labled....it could easily have been a source not knowing he got the wrong size vial before reselling...who knows........maybe we could post pics and check the height of the powder in the vial....as i am pretty sure a 8iu vial would have visibly more substance in it than a 4 iu vial

I'll grab one of mine
 
itlnstln said:
Again, wasn't flaming you - I just wanted the whole story so "I" can go with another Generic

Its cool bro, I wanted the whole story too before I said anything. I have not once accused anyone or mentioned any names, because I cant prove that they did or did not know anything. For all I know, it could have been just an honest mistake, and maybe the problem is corrected now. I just know that at 8ius/day and not seeing any side effects, something is wrong.. I know the test is legit, so I did my part. I just wanted people to be aware and be safe about what you are taking. Because It might not be what people are claiming it to be. The browns are real and the purity is good as the test confirms this at 4ius/vial. But they were being sold at 8ius/vial, which is not cool..
 
maybe then italian could post a close up pic of his....i could be wrong on this but i think it would be visible...unless the powder was just much denser and you couldn't tell the difference...but i doubt it. Maybe pics WILL tell us something?

I do know that everyone has raved and loved these brown tops(assuming they are all the same thing)....sounds like some source(s) have some explaining to do
 
itlnstln said:
Listen - it's like any other ASS - if you find the right product - generic is the same.

People are pushin Jins cause they will a distant memory soon, once there is a solid-even flow of GOOD generics out there.


ill never buy thyose things...i ve seen just about every price out there for GH...cheaper that u may know. but its still waaaay to high.. generic is getting awsome feedback on the vet board i visit...i cant trust most of the feedback from here...and the price is beyond awsome
 
d_o_c_ said:
Generic and Jins are not far from each other in price. In the end you get what you pay for.


Yep, in the end i got what i paid for....best i've ever fucking looked in my life.....and i swear i get more results from the generics im taking now than i did from jintropins!!!! YES....i think my generics are better than the jintropin i have taken in the past! and to boot i saved roughly 100 bucks per kit
 
Is this too blury?

Just ook it, and rushed through it - too much coffee





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itlnstln said:
People are pushin Jins cause they will a distant memory soon, once there is a solid-even flow of GOOD generics out there.

I find this to be next to impossible. Jintropin has one of the largest market share of hgh produced today and with the serial #'s on each kit, people feel alot safer buying them.

Generics are really only being used by BB's right now. I know for a fact that 90% of people who use gh for HRT and muscle wasting diseases won't gamble with something not sealed, especially not a generic.

So as stands with more info getting out, I beleive that Jintropin will only become more popular.
 
d_o_c_ said:
I find this to be next to impossible. Jintropin has one of the largest market share of hgh produced today and with the serial #'s on each kit, people feel alot safer buying them.

Generics are really only being used by BB's right now. I know for a fact that 90% of people who use gh for HRT and muscle wasting diseases won't gamble with something not sealed, especially not a generic.

So as stands with more info getting out, I beleive that Jintropin will only become more popular.

I was simply speaking from a BB standpoint - "this" market - "us"
 
d_o_c_ said:
I find this to be next to impossible. Jintropin has one of the largest market share of hgh produced today and with the serial #'s on each kit, people feel alot safer buying them.

Generics are really only being used by BB's right now. I know for a fact that 90% of people who use gh for HRT and muscle wasting diseases won't gamble with something not sealed, especially not a generic.

So as stands with more info getting out, I beleive that Jintropin will only become more popular.


I'll agree with that bro.....but im a bodybuilder...not an aids patient!!!

although i see your point and its a good one
 
BBkingpin said:
I've never seen generics for sale by anybody.

Seriously????????

They're EVERYWHERE
 
If you don't have the funds for Jintropin go with Kefei bluetops. Price can't be beat and the potency is great.
 
I'm gonna keep bumping this until those tests are verified.
This is extremely important to a lot of people.
 
Quiltie said:

Dude - dump that pic - It fux me up evertime I see it.
It's like that strung-out-crack-cat
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
I personally sent a sample overseas for testing. I questioned the authenticity of them when I wasnt seeing sides at 4ius/day, and eventually went upto 8ius/day at my 7th week. The vials that I was sold from 2 different people, both claiming they are 8iu/vials. In reality, what they both sold me was 4iu/vials. So, I was taking 1/2 of what I thought I was. If I would have known it would have been fine, I could have adjusted my reconstitutions, and done it right. So we have someone that is cutting corners selling 4ius/vials as 8ius/vials, which is not right. Maybe they didnt know, but someone does.. Make your own judgements with the brown tops. I know I wont be using any generic anymore.. The tester told me the purity was good for them, but only at 4ius/vial.


Did your Brown Tops come straight from a remailer in China?
 
itlnstln said:
Did your Brown Tops come straight from a remailer in China?

that's where mine come from - is this the same remailer that everyone was saying is no good?
 
I got them from 2 different people. One from china and one from US. Im glad they are real, just what bothers me is people claiming them to be 8ius when they are only really 4ius. Why cut corners with a product that is suppose to be high in quality is beyone me?

Im still having problems changing the word document over to PDF. It comes up fine on my computer, but when I upload it its not coming out right. Once Mr.X verifies my information, we can get to the bottom of this..
 
i think your source should at least hook you up for what you where underdosed, even if they didnt know themselves. i can imagine how upset you must of been hgh is an expensive product
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Im still having problems changing the word document over to PDF. It comes up fine on my computer, but when I upload it its not coming out right. Once Mr.X verifies my information, we can get to the bottom of this..

If the lab results were emailed to you, why don't you just forward the message on to one of our computer geeks. Surely there's a dozen guys on this board who can help you out.

Volunteers?
 
Any update on the lab report?

Just email it to someone...........................
 
d_o_c_ said:
If you don't have the funds for Jintropin go with Kefei bluetops. Price can't be beat and the potency is great.


that is what i am taking myself....but there can't be that many places in china making this shit....possibly most of it is coming from same factory?
 
Im waiting on Mr.X. I will forward it to him as he is the one who will be checking and validating that I had the test done. All I was sent was a word document. As soon as I hear back from him, I will email him the doc and will go from there..
 
^^^
 
I'd suspect that if they really are bad it's due to someone intentionally screwing with them,i know people that are on brown's from someone i know and they like them better than the name brand's they have used. It suck's though that they would be bad.
 
buffalo said:
I'd suspect that if they really are bad it's due to someone intentionally screwing with them,i know people that are on brown's from someone i know and they like them better than the name brand's they have used. It suck's though that they would be bad.


That's what I'm suspecting.
 
DRRman said:
can you post a pic of a vial you say has 4iu's in it italianmuscle??

i think he did - but something's very "vague" here.
 
hey "X" - you get the final verdict yet?
 
I emailed Mr.X the report that was sent to me. I havent heard back yet. China is 13hours ahead of us, so just hang tight everyone. I posted a pic of the browntops I received. All had the same amount of powder in each vial, I checked! I still can send another sample somewhere else for a second opinion. Just give me the place and Ill send another sample..

Its not that the brown tops are bad. The lab test I received, said they passed all the tests and the purity was good. There was a question on how many ius were actually in the vial. My test showed it at 4ius plus/minus 10%. So why were these being sold at 8ius then?
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
I emailed Mr.X the report that was sent to me. I havent heard back yet. China is 13hours ahead of us, so just hang tight everyone. I posted a pic of the browntops I received. All had the same amount of powder in each vial, I checked! I still can send another sample somewhere else for a second opinion. Just give me the place and Ill send another sample..

Its not that the brown tops are bad. The lab test I received, said they passed all the tests and the purity was good. There was a question on how many ius were actually in the vial. My test showed it at 4ius plus/minus 10%. So why were these being sold at 8ius then?

I got it, but it's just a word file. I called the Chinese company 3 times today, no answer.

I am not going to say anything is true or false until I can get verification on this test.
 
I think this tops "dead"
 
I have a bottle or two to donate if someone wants to test.


How much does it cost to test anyway ?
 
kbrkbr said:
IM, just curious, but why didn't you submit your sample to a testing lab in the US?

To my understanding, no one in US can test it correctly. My best bet was SRCS, but they dont test rHGH or IGF1. I have another sample for second opinion, just let me know where to send it. I dont have a problem with that. I have no reason to lie about any of this. I did this for peace of mine for myself, just like some of you do this with your injectables by sending them to SRCS.
 
ok guys
lets be a bit analytical about this whole thing.

now u say its a biotech lab in china where u got it tested
well bro let me tell u there are tons and tons of one room biotech labs in china which do not even have a production facility
Some ppl i know did a back ground check on this very lab you are talking about. and here are the findings.
it is a small time research lab with no backing what so ever.
they also sell their own hgh.. now u be the judge. wil u like gensci to test kexings hgh or kexing to test anke bios hgh... iam sure u know the answer to this.. so why would u even trust an hgh company to even test its competitors hgh.
some ppl i know contacted this bio tech co. u are talking about and according to them they asked them about their hgh and nothing about lab tests that they conducted. they were given a quotation and were told that their lab facility was in Pudong shanghai. upon request to see their facility they were point blankly told that this cant be shown to them ( now if you know a bit about china you will find out that most of the cos (again non steroid or gh related) when they pretend to be manufacturing concerns and when they are requested for a visit to their production facilities will make up excuses to avoid it.
so now you tell me the answers to the following questions.

(1) will you trust the lab results conducted by a competitor
(2) will you trust a co. which does not have even have its own production facility to give you a lab report.

Please before we make such disclosures which have great repurcussions to be a bit more responsible and see what we are doing first.
 
Where is your proof of this?

cjmags said:
ok guys
lets be a bit analytical about this whole thing.

now u say its a biotech lab in china where u got it tested
well bro let me tell u there are tons and tons of one room biotech labs in china which do not even have a production facility
Some ppl i know did a back ground check on this very lab you are talking about. and here are the findings.
it is a small time research lab with no backing what so ever.
they also sell their own hgh.. now u be the judge. wil u like gensci to test kexings hgh or kexing to test anke bios hgh... iam sure u know the answer to this.. so why would u even trust an hgh company to even test its competitors hgh.
some ppl i know contacted this bio tech co. u are talking about and according to them they asked them about their hgh and nothing about lab tests that they conducted. they were given a quotation and were told that their lab facility was in Pudong shanghai. upon request to see their facility they were point blankly told that this cant be shown to them ( now if you know a bit about china you will find out that most of the cos (again non steroid or gh related) when they pretend to be manufacturing concerns and when they are requested for a visit to their production facilities will make up excuses to avoid it.
so now you tell me the answers to the following questions.

(1) will you trust the lab results conducted by a competitor
(2) will you trust a co. which does not have even have its own production facility to give you a lab report.

Please before we make such disclosures which have great repurcussions to be a bit more responsible and see what we are doing first.
 
d_o_c_ said:
Where is your proof of this?

bro ask the gentleman first to post the lab report here
ull find the needful when the report is posted here..we all have been jumping to conclusions without seeing the lab results in the first place.. so tell the gentleman to post it here..
 
cjmags said:
bro ask the gentleman first to post the lab report here
ull find the needful when the report is posted here..we all have been jumping to conclusions without seeing the lab results in the first place.. so tell the gentleman to post it here..

The problem here is that all he got was a word doc, and anyone with half a brain can easily manipulate a word doc. I'm not accusing anyone of having done so, I'm only saying that a word doc, in and of itself, is essentially useless. That''s why I asked that the original email from the lab be forwarded to a mod for examination. I might be naive, or outright stupid ( I'm often accused of both ) but to my knowledge, an email message would be much more difficult to manipulate and would provide better proof as to the source of the lab report. (If I'm wrong here, please point it out.)

Did Mr. X ever call the lab? Bro, do you need donations to cover the cost of the call? LMK and I'll paypal you some money pronto.
 
kbrkbr said:
The problem here is that all he got was a word doc, and anyone with half a brain can easily manipulate a word doc. I'm not accusing anyone of having done so, I'm only saying that a word doc, in and of itself, is essentially useless. That''s why I asked that the original email from the lab be forwarded to a mod for examination. I might be naive, or outright stupid ( I'm often accused of both ) but to my knowledge, an email message would be much more difficult to manipulate and would provide better proof as to the source of the lab report. (If I'm wrong here, please point it out.)

Did Mr. X ever call the lab? Bro, do you need donations to cover the cost of the call? LMK and I'll paypal you some money pronto.
bro what ever it is forged or genuine atleast get it on the threaad. we have no report to see and we are already jumping to conclusions..
 
d_o_c_ said:
Why on earth would he want to bad mouth brown tops?[/QUOT

LOL.. com on man.. so we are going to hang the accused without going thru a trial which starts by providing evidence.. So lets start by providing the evidence to everyone here First..and than we draw our own conclusions..
 
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I have no reason to lie about any of this. I found this biotech company by accident, and asked him if he knew anyone that could test a generic rHGH sample for me, because I didnt think it was real. Shit, I was using 8ius/day in my 7th week and no sides with the brown tops. He said he would. I didnt say where it came from, I just wanted to know how pure it was and if it was really rHGH. I know it wasnt hcg because I did a pregnacy test on it. Yes, the test was just given to me in a word document, and I know it looks skeptical after looking at it myself. I forwarded the word doc and email information to Mr.X already. If someone can change it into PDF format so everyone can take a look. Its not that it was not real rHGH, because the sample is real but he says its only 4ius, not 8ius. It was sold to me as 8ius. I wasnt seeing any sides, so its very believeable to me that this was the case.

Im not pointing fingers, and never mentioned any names..Im just concerned that what was sold to me as 8ius, was actually only 4. Thats fucked up..

CJ, you make some very valid points and I can not argue with those, but this guy easily could have said it was shit and not real. Why lie to me for? According to the test, it passed all their tests and the purity was good, but only for a 4iu/sample. Its a good generic, but only if sold as what was really inside. I have another sample, I will pay for test and everything. Let me know where to send for second opinion..
 
kbrkbr said:
Did Mr. X ever call the lab? Bro, do you need donations to cover the cost of the call? LMK and I'll paypal you some money pronto.

I called 3 times the other day and 2 times today, no way to reach them. I will fill out the support ticket on their site and try to get at them so they call me.

Either way, please don't jump on ItalianMuscle27, he means well. Everyone keep in mind, in china things are NOT done the same as USA. Format of labs tests, the look and even the branding is not the same. Let's hear from the company first before we make any calls on this.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
I have no reason to lie about any of this. I found this biotech company by accident, and asked him if he knew anyone that could test a generic rHGH sample for me, because I didnt think it was real. Shit, I was using 8ius/day in my 7th week and no sides with the brown tops. He said he would. I didnt say where it came from, I just wanted to know how pure it was and if it was really rHGH. I know it wasnt hcg because I did a pregnacy test on it. Yes, the test was just given to me in a word document, and I know it looks skeptical after looking at it myself. I forwarded the word doc and email information to Mr.X already. If someone can change it into PDF format so everyone can take a look. Its not that it was not real rHGH, because the sample is real but he says its only 4ius, not 8ius. It was sold to me as 8ius. I wasnt seeing any sides, so its very believeable to me that this was the case.

Im not pointing fingers, and never mentioned any names..Im just concerned that what was sold to me as 8ius, was actually only 4. Thats fucked up..

CJ, you make some very valid points and I can not argue with those, but this guy easily could have said it was shit and not real. Why lie to me for? According to the test, it passed all their tests and the purity was good, but only for a 4iu/sample. Its a good generic, but only if sold as what was really inside. I have another sample, I will pay for test and everything. Let me know where to send for second opinion..


bro if u are really sincere in doing this than the best place to test it is from a reputable lab and not an unknown entity..send me the lab report and ill get it posted here in proper format for all to see.. not an issue..
u can mail me at this email.. ill be waiting.
[email protected]
 
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Ive searched for months for someone to test it, and I always came up with dead ends. Everyone Ive talked to in the US, said they couldnt do it, couldnt do it correctly, was to expensive, or didnt have the resources to do it. I thought I would try overseas, and found someone. If the test is shit, then so be it I guess. I have one sample left, that Im willing to give up for a new lab test. lmk..

YGM CJ!
 
get it up here - cause the brown tops i got came from a very specific "name" - and there are "countless" complains of nothing but "these" brown tops being a little "too" strong.
 
I had a problem calling them, still no luck. I got their email from ItalianMuscle27, will email them.
 
If I read everything correctly (on the other board) - this so-called "lab" actually SELLS HGH?!

Big surprise that a competitor would claim a rivals vials were underdosed.

If the above is correct - along with SOOOO much positive feedback on these Brown Tops - I think this can be put to rest.
 
Sorry, I've been writing all night. Mind not too clear. Did we draw any conclusions here? What are we supposed to take away from this thread?

Thanks.
 
also one more thing i would like to point out. in the other board i mentioned above if you see there someone is going to go and get this hgh tested. it is stated in the lab tests forum under the following topic.

Testing For Brown tops By NICPBP

now he states that it wil cost about 1200 dollars plus 60vials of hgh.
the test this bio tech co did iam sure did not take more than 2-3 vials of the hgh.. strange one institute ( and might i say a prestigeous institute is asking for 60 vials for testing and this biotech firm did it with a few samples). point to ponder.
 
cjmags said:
also one more thing i would like to point out. in the other board i mentioned above if you see there someone is going to go and get this hgh tested. it is stated in the lab tests forum under the following topic.

Testing For Brown tops By NICPBP

now he states that it wil cost about 1200 dollars plus 60vials of hgh.
the test this bio tech co did iam sure did not take more than 2-3 vials of the hgh.. strange one institute ( and might i say a prestigeous institute is asking for 60 vials for testing and this biotech firm did it with a few samples). point to ponder.


In my oppinion...i think the brown tops are just fine....too many people look for way too much when taking HGH...its NOT magic
 
DRRman said:
In my oppinion...i think the brown tops are just fine....too many people look for way too much when taking HGH...its NOT magic


Brown tops - excellent - I now have swollen hands to prove it.......
 
I still can't verify the tests. I finally got in touch w/ the company and they couldn't tell me anything about the test. I don't get it...
 
itlnstln said:
Brown tops - excellent - I now have swollen hands to prove it.......


Wait till the hurt so fuckin bad in the mornings that you can't open your bottles water for cardio!! I can make my thumb and fingers touch....and im only taking 3.33 iu's/day!
 
I dont know what else to really say about this matter. I had no side effects at 8ius/day. Maybe I got a bad batch, who really knows. I have no reason to lie about this matter, and I have never mentioned any names or flamed anyone.. I apologize to everyone, if this started some controversary about the brown tops. I know I wont be using those or any generic in the future. How is anyone suppose to know anything with a clear glass vial and no name? Not worth the headache.. Sorry again fellas..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
I dont know what else to really say about this matter. I had no side effects at 8ius/day. Maybe I got a bad batch, who really knows. I have no reason to lie about this matter, and I have never mentioned any names or flamed anyone.. I apologize to everyone, if this started some controversary about the brown tops. I know I wont be using those or any generic in the future. How is anyone suppose to know anything with a clear glass vial and no name? Not worth the headache.. Sorry again fellas..

I'm on week 3 at 2iu's a day - and my browns are the shiznig
 
it seems to me here like one guy just got a bad batch...even the best labs have bad batches on rare occasion..and this was probably one of them. I used brown tops before and my fingers always got pretty swollen on them...they felt good to me..blue tops...brown tops...id use either one..both get excellent feedback in general and are priced very well...lets chill guys =)
 
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