Gel/Cream vs injectable questions

[stevelunny]

Hi there

I've done two cycles via injections in average dosings. I had very bad bloating both times, so much so that I've decided not to do another cycle like this. All the while I was on an aggressive anti-estro regimen.

I am considering using a cream or a gel (compound made by pharmacy a few times stronger than androgel or Testim). I know the results won't be comparable to injecting, but I'm fine with that.

My questions are:

1- are there any different or additional side effects when using a cream or gel?
2- since it's lower dose can they be used longer than a regular cycle?


thanks for any info!! much appreciated

S

 

[jacked55]

What were the previous cycles you ran? What are your stats?

Thats gel crap cant compare to running a legit cycle w/ proper diet/training/rest

 

[gear63]

The bloat comes from certain compounds, What injectable did you run and tell the duration and weekly dosages. The gel is more for HRT or TRT not really to build muscle but it will produce results just not as dramatic or as fast as the traditonal method would. To anwser your questions-possible to cause skin irratation, same side effects as injectable test but not as pronouced, also you should use it like a normal cycle a 10, 12 ,16 week cycle then PCT just like the normal routine.

 

[stevelunny]

I am not looking for massive gains or anything like that, just a bit of a boost. so with that in mind the cream might be okay for me.

Since it absorbs so quickly (and leaves just as fast) i thought you might actually see and feel results sooner than injection, just not nearly as dramatically.

thanks for your info! very helpful!
S

 

[goal245]

If you dont want to inject, use the cream but stack it with an oral such as anavar to get more results.

Injection is the best way to go, Testosterone stacked with masteron will have virtually no bloat

 

[slimjim1985]

I will never understand why some people don't want to get fuckin' massive. Worth the life of me I don't see the logic.

 

[stevelunny]

I don't need major results so I'm okay with the cream/gel. it's a 20% compound.

If there's a good risk of bloating from this i'd rather not even do it. my face blew up badly last time, made the gains not even worth it.

If i found that i was starting to bloat could i just use less cream and adjust like that?

thanks!

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Hey man I can speak from experience on the test gel/cream.

My doc. gives me Androgel 5g packets (1 per day, for now) and I can tell you it works the same way as injectable test...

The dose is WAY lower than when I inject, so it wont be as pronounced (unless you use enough to yield injection levels)

There are no different side effects I can see, except for some added hair growth on my stomach where I apply the gel, perhaps.. this may not be directly associated with it, though.

As far as staying on it longer.. I don't cycle, I am always using an anabolic of some sort.. I think it may be healthier than the "yo-yo" of hormones and drugs to come off steroids to just stay on some dose of test all the time..

[This, of course, may yield sterility. But I don't mind.. male birth control for me.. If I ever wanted kids, I'd use HCG]

 

[stevelunny]

thanks for this info. The gel i'm using is supposed to be quite a bit stronger than androgel. I just wish there was a way to fight the estro issues. i did agressive anastrazole last time and I still had bad chipmunk cheeks for months.

any other ways to avoid the bloat aside from lots of water, low salt?

Hey man I can speak from experience on the test gel/cream.

My doc. gives me Androgel 5g packets (1 per day, for now) and I can tell you it works the same way as injectable test...

The dose is WAY lower than when I inject, so it wont be as pronounced (unless you use enough to yield injection levels)

There are no different side effects I can see, except for some added hair growth on my stomach where I apply the gel, perhaps.. this may not be directly associated with it, though.

As far as staying on it longer.. I don't cycle, I am always using an anabolic of some sort.. I think it may be healthier than the "yo-yo" of hormones and drugs to come off steroids to just stay on some dose of test all the time..

[This, of course, may yield sterility. But I don't mind.. male birth control for me.. If I ever wanted kids, I'd use HCG]

 

[goal245]

Testosterone propionate will not give you any noticeable bloat, stack it with tren or masteron and you will be dry and get really good results

 

[ArmaniAK47]

bloat is a tough one.. lots of water (not overkill.. say a gallon?) every day.. less, but not zero salt.. just no shaking it on food.. no chicken nuggets..pizza..mex.. obviously..

if it is estro water retension you must have a lot of aromatase floating around.. arimidex may work for that well..

I tend to save the anti E drugs for when I really need them.

just my two cents : ]

 

[stevelunny]

I used anaztrozole throughout my 2 cycles and still had MAJOR facial bloat. I checked and my pharmacy doesnt carry Masteron, which is really too bad! it sounds like the absolute perfect fit for me.

I'm starting the cream tomorrow. if i do bloat, is it okay to simply apply less?

S

 

[ArmaniAK47]

yeah you can.. but if Arimidex isn't doing anything for it it shouldn't be estrogen..

 

[stevelunny]

Is there something else that could account for the facial bloating then? it was the only side affect i had and was bad enough that people who saw me for the first time in a while were a bit shocked!

S

yeah you can.. but if Arimidex isn't doing anything for it it shouldn't be estrogen..