tarap, same paper...only one source as far as i know. I got it a coulpe weeks ago and havent started it yet, cuz Im waiting on some other stuff I need to go with my cycle. I have a friend in SD who was going to go to TJ but has been holding off since the WTC/Pentagon incidents.
Once I get everything I need to complete my cycle I'll begin it and keep you all informed.
I may have to just order the stuff domestically, but I hope not...would rather pay half the price for the same stuff, and slip my buddy a little extra for his trouble.
PS. As far as no gains thats strange, I've heard nothing but good about the stuff. Maybe its the receptors in your body...are you stacking anything like deca or test? If not I surely would!
Golfer18, Do a search for paperbol here on the boards. You should come up with plenty of info. I've had VERY reliable people tell me its VERY good.