gear options? love tren, but time for a break..

[Burpees]

what's up guys, what are my options besides tren? I'm looking for personal experience. in all honesty I want mass but not to be a blimp, I would love another 20lbs on me. I figure thats another 2-3 12 week runs on Tren/Test..

I don't think EQ will do it, what about Deca? What else is there?

i've posted my stats, and my experience various times.. this would be my second cycle.

So I don't mind the gains to be a bit less leaner than Tren, but I don't want to look like a puffer fish and lose 15lbs of water when I come off to be disappointed..

 

[eddymerckx]

plain old test will do it. nothing complicated. do 12 weeks and finish the last 6 with var. if you want to stay super lean just use prop.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

plain old test will do it. nothing complicated. do 12 weeks and finish the last 6 with var. if you want to stay super lean just use prop.

+1 I would run something like this:

1-12 250 Test E
1-12 400mg Primo
1-4 30mg D-bol

That will add some lean mass with very keepable gains. You will have some water weight at first from the D-bol but overall it won't be that bad.

This is actually the next cycle I'm going to run.

 

[perryscoon]

You don't need tren to get big bro. Tren is a fairly new drug. The old pro's didn't have tren, only primo, and dbol.

The didn't even have test.

 

[Burpees]

How keepable are Dbol gains in your experience guys?

From what I read it seems to compliment strength gains, and drive, but most if not all of what it gained is lost shortly after you discontinue using it?

Primo looks interesting.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

How keepable are Dbol gains in your experience guys?

From what I read it seems to compliment strength gains, and drive, but most if not all of what it gained is lost shortly after you discontinue using it?

Primo looks interesting.

D-bol is just a kick start until the long acting esters of the primo and test kick in. Your strength will go through the roof with d-bol. You would only use it for the first 4-6 weeks max.

To answer your question, they are keepable but your real gains will come from the injectables

 

[perryscoon]

How keepable are Dbol gains in your experience guys?

From what I read it seems to compliment strength gains, and drive, but most if not all of what it gained is lost shortly after you discontinue using it?

Primo looks interesting.

Primo is excellent for keeping gains. So is Anavar and T-bol.

Dbol bloats you up big time and then you drop a lot of weight when you come off but you can keep a good portion of it if your diet is in check. Remember Guardian? He loved dbol and hated tren. And remember how big and cut he was?? There is your answer.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Primo is excellent for keeping gains. So is Anavar and T-bol.

Dbol bloats you up big time and then you drop a lot of weight when you come off but you can keep a good portion of it if your diet is in check. Remember Guardian? He loved dbol and hated tren. And remember how big and cut he was?? There is your answer.

Good point.

He also thought that steroids were for building muscle not burning fat.

 

[jaybois]

How keepable are Dbol gains in your experience guys?

From what I read it seems to compliment strength gains, and drive, but most if not all of what it gained is lost shortly after you discontinue using it?

Primo looks interesting.

I'd say if ya wana find out how keepable dbol gains are try a run of dbol only.
Never tried it myself.

 

[REFORMATA]

I ran dbol and deca as my first and only cycle so far.....DEFINITELY increased strength real fast... I started off just taking a half of a 50 tab ed...then bumped it to a 50 ed on some advice...

and deca is SICK as far as I'm concerned....I've lost a good deal of size due to the bloat from the dbol...but kept almost all my strength...

good luck bro..