gaining naturally

[kmoe42]

ok my question is when u use gear for the first time say test or d bol.. one of the mass builders... i know diet is the best mass builder but gear that puts on some mass... when u quit takin these can u still gain naturally or is it harder for a person who has used AAS in the past to gain as much natty as someone who has never used at all?

 

[mikefear]

You speed up your growth.. you get closer to your natural limits much quicker..

Let's say you're at 185 and you use some gear.. you get up to 210 (just pretend )..

If your body's natural limits were at, or around, 210-215.. you're going to have a painfully hard time getting bigger without some help.

Again, these numbers are bullshit and hypothetical, just trying to paint a picture.

 

[kmoe42]

so lets say ur bodies natural limit is around 250 u use gear and get to 225 then ur off gear can u still gain up to 250 naturally just as easy as if uve never juiced before.. haha this is all hypothetically speakin ofcourse

 

[kmoe42]

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[letsrun4it]

You cannot fight your genetic limit...some are just not meant to be big, some are not meant to be ripped...and naturally there is just nothing you can do.

 

[mikefear]

I dont se why not.. you're just speeding up your natural growth..

 

[bmcadoo44]

its alot harder trust me..... iv gained about 5 pounds and 15+ on my bench press after i cycled off my first deca cycle.... I lost some and gained it all back plus more. But after my second cycle i didnt gain shit more. I'l be running anavar for this very reason. I hate seeing myself shrink up after a cycle or loose any gains at all. I'l do this cycle of var and i'l be done with aas for a year or so.

 

[kmoe42]

ok my next question..which i will probly get flames for it.. why do pple say to reach ur natural limit first before using AAS.. if u can gain it back when u come off the juice then wouldnt this just speed thru the process.. cuz if u take juice get big not at ur natural limit yet then come off and get bigger y do pple always say to wait till ur done growin naturally?

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

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[supertech69]

I would say that if the reference "muscle memory" holds true, then you should be able to reach that point again naturally. It's going to take a hell of a lot more work and a much tighter diet though. I have been off for over 2.5yrs now & I can honestly say that I have gotten thicker in a few areas. My condition is nowhere near where it was when I was on but, I have certainly made some natural gains. My guess is that this has more to do with age and experience than it does with natural/not-natural. As I am sure if I had never stopped using, I would be a hell of a lot bigger, stronger and leaner.

 

[first jd]

I don't think you stop gaining naturally, it is just so much slower that you think you aren't gaining at all. Also, you will have an initial loss of weight and struength using heavy androgens when you come off..

 

[mikefear]

ok my next question..which i will probly get flames for it.. why do pple say to reach ur natural limit first before using AAS.. if u can gain it back when u come off the juice then wouldnt this just speed thru the process.. cuz if u take juice get big not at ur natural limit yet then come off and get bigger y do pple always say to wait till ur done growin naturally?

because they dont want you to get big using steroids. seriously.

the only reason not to use before you gain naturally is because the muscle wont be mature enough to last in the state that it was in while you were on gear. the muscle will be too young and inexperienced, and it will be a waste, because you won't be able to keep it the way it was while 'on'